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billy1000
11-02-2007, 23:20
I will soon (within two weeks) be buying a second hand motorhome. What I need to know is this.
1, Where is the best place to get insurance?
2, Has anyone had any use of a teleco automatic satellite dish and if so would you recomend them?
3, Motorhome I hope to get is a swift contiki 650T. Has anyone any views on these and thoughts of what could go wrong with them?
Thanks guys and girls.

GARY ENGLISH
12-02-2007, 08:44
Best to shop around,you tend to get quite a difference in price due to your personal details.Really depende on age ,several people told me to beware of early ones had problems with leaks.You bound to find some one on here ,who can give you some good advice.

rebbyvid
12-02-2007, 08:58
Hi Billy
Go on the motorhome website list and do a search there is all the info you will need there also try posting on other sites as the motorhome community are a very friendly lot and have all the knowledge.
Rob

virgil
12-02-2007, 09:51
I think the Swift Kontiki is one of the best looking MHs out there! We looked at a couple before purchasing our Apollo, the only reason we never purchased a Swift was because we preferred the layout in the Apollo.

Nosha
12-02-2007, 10:20
Welcome! There are loads of threads regarding insurance on here, we had good service from Lifesure of St.Neots 0870 366 1235 or info@lifesure.co.uk as a starting place, if you buy MMM there are pages of them and quite a few have free phone 0800 numbers of cheap/local rate calls so a lunch hour with a phone and a magazine gives you a very good starting point, some do well with Adrian Flux over Norwich way, they were good for me many years ago when I was struggling to get a kit car insured - let us know how you get on!

billy1000
12-02-2007, 10:43
Thanks for all the help so far. Nosha, I will certainly give lifesure a ring as i'm not too far from them. Will let you know how I get on. I am hoping to go fulltiming in mine and a lot of them that i've looked at so far would only do insurance for people with a fixed address or house owners.

Twosheds
12-02-2007, 17:54
We use Safegaurd Insurance who also include UK & European breakdown cover in their price. I find them very helpful and have used them for 10 years, best to shop around though. http://motor.swinton.co.uk/motorhome

billy1000
12-02-2007, 18:51
Thanks twosheds. Will have a look at it.

swingsandroundabouts
12-02-2007, 21:03
We use Safeguard also and got an extra discount through being members of our Owners club.( Herald ) We have been with Safeguard for years and just renewed our policy, 453 fully comp with UK/ European breakdown for a 1995 Herald Templar.This includes 20 for legal protection and another fee for protected no claims.

roifromnwales
12-02-2007, 21:53
if you are living in a rural location, it is worth giving the NFU a chance.
i did and I reckon so far it has saved me at least some 6 hundred quid over the last 6 years

billy1000
05-03-2007, 15:38
if you are living in a rural location, it is worth giving the NFU a chance.
i did and I reckon so far it has saved me at least some 6 hundred quid over the last 6 years

Tried NFU as you suggested and got a brilliant quote, not for the Kontiki but for a big American job. Thanks mate.

grath
05-03-2007, 15:53
Hi Billy, You must have a good look around everywhere. We toured all over looking for ours. The Kontiki is quite a popular m/h with good reports, however my preference although a little biased is Hymer as German quality. We went that route as we wanted a shower that can actually get wet without fear of water ingress. Up to now we have had no problems & have used the shower daily.
Regarding insurance, it depends on ur age. We are with Saga and it cost less than our car, It cost us 241 with legal protection.
Many insurers will give U the same no claim discount on the M/H as u have on ur car (running the 2 vehicles)
Anyway, have a good look around, check all documentation & do a HPI check b4 handing over any money.
Have a good test run & be sure b4 U commit urself as it will be harder to sell than buy.
Good luck

billy1000
05-03-2007, 16:29
Hi Billy, You must have a good look around everywhere. We toured all over looking for ours. The Kontiki is quite a popular m/h with good reports, however my preference although a little biased is Hymer as German quality. We went that route as we wanted a shower that can actually get wet without fear of water ingress. Up to now we have had no problems & have used the shower daily.
Regarding insurance, it depends on ur age. We are with Saga and it cost less than our car, It cost us 241 with legal protection.
Many insurers will give U the same no claim discount on the M/H as u have on ur car (running the 2 vehicles)
Anyway, have a good look around, check all documentation & do a HPI check b4 handing over any money.
Have a good test run & be sure b4 U commit urself as it will be harder to sell than buy.
Good luck

I have decided on an American m/h mainly for the following reason. With a Kontiki it only has a 2.5 engine and trying to tow a car that weighs 1.8tonnes plus the trailer it would mean I would be struggling up hills so I decided on a bigger engine job (6200cc diesel) to save all of that.

cipro
05-03-2007, 20:07
Hi billy I also use safeguard. Unlike some companys you get unlimited miles

billy1000
05-03-2007, 20:12
Hi billy I also use safeguard. Unlike some companys you get unlimited miles

Is Safeguard part of the Swinton group? If it is they are the one's that quoted me 800.

monkeynut
05-03-2007, 20:36
I would give Adrian Flux a call too ,and see what quote they come up with

cipro
05-03-2007, 21:13
Is Safeguard part of the Swinton group? If it is they are the one's that quoted me 800.

Safeguard say they are a division of the swinton group so possably means the same as PART as you said.

330 I have just paid for 35000 cover on a cipro ci mh.

mh insurence is vastly different up and down the country as we all now rurel cover which i have coming from Shropshire is probably cheaper than city cover.However keep getting quotes for the best deal.PS cheap is,nt always
the best :D

guest
05-03-2007, 21:28
Safeguard say they are a division of the swinton group so possably means the same as PART as you said.

330 I have just paid for 35000 cover on a cipro ci mh.

mh insurence is vastly different up and down the country as we all now rurel cover which i have coming from Shropshire is probably cheaper than city cover.However keep getting quotes for the best deal.PS cheap is,nt always
the best :D
bit off subject here but where abouts in shrops are you if you dont mind me asking,im from gobowen near oswestry :)

rupert
06-03-2007, 07:37
I have decided on an American m/h mainly for the following reason. With a Kontiki it only has a 2.5 engine and trying to tow a car that weighs 1.8tonnes plus the trailer it would mean I would be struggling up hills so I decided on a bigger engine job (6200cc diesel) to save all of that.
Hi Billy,
I do not want to or have any intentions of piddling on your parade but have you considered the huge running costs associated with this type of vehicle.:eek:
Low MPG and expensive tyres & expensive & difficult to source spare parts. :eek: Lastly but not least, any future road pricing or road tax implications.:eek:
As I said, I do not intend to put a damper on your intentions, just hope you are aware of all the implications.:cool:
I realize that you are an ex HGV driver, therefore I trust that you are making an informed decision. Best of luck.:D :)

billy1000
06-03-2007, 08:25
Hi Billy,
I do not want to or have any intentions of piddling on your parade but have you considered the huge running costs associated with this type of vehicle.:eek:
Low MPG and expensive tyres & expensive & difficult to source spare parts. :eek: Lastly but not least, any future road pricing or road tax implications.:eek:
As I said, I do not intend to put a damper on your intentions, just hope you are aware of all the implications.:cool:
I realize that you are an ex HGV driver, therefore I trust that you are making an informed decision. Best of luck.:D :)

I took all things into consideration and costs and the law were ate the top of my list. The cost of buying, running and maintaining and the legality of towing weights. If I were to tow a Ford Focus on an Ivor Williams twin wheel trailer it would weigh almost two tonnes. This would be too much weight for a Kontiki to tow. Appreciate your concern mate, I really do, but felt this was the only option. Besides it's a nice moter inside and out.:)

rupert
06-03-2007, 08:40
I took all things into consideration and costs and the law were ate the top of my list. The cost of buying, running and maintaining and the legality of towing weights. If I were to tow a Ford Focus on an Ivor Williams twin wheel trailer it would weigh almost two tonnes. This would be too much weight for a Kontiki to tow. Appreciate your concern mate, I really do, but felt this was the only option. Besides it's a nice moter inside and out.:)
Billy, I can see where U R comong from, and as they say "if the cap fits":cool:
Best of luck ( I didn't mean that sarcasticly):cool:
The plus side is, lots of room & comfort, a better (higher) view.:cool:

billy1000
06-03-2007, 09:13
Billy, I can see where U R comong from, and as they say "if the cap fits":cool:
Best of luck ( I didn't mean that sarcasticly):cool:
The plus side is, lots of room & comfort, a better (higher) view.:cool:

Thanks for that mate. One thing to remember with having a big m/h is that over a certain length and weight you need a different licence. I'm ok as I have a class 1 C+E which is an articulated licence. In other words i'm covered for any length or weight of vehicle.

rupert
06-03-2007, 09:15
Thanks for that mate. One thing to remember with having a big m/h is that over a certain length and weight you need a different licence. I'm ok as I have a class 1 C+E which is an articulated licence. In other words i'm covered for any length or weight of vehicle.
Me too, that was why I knew where U were coming from!:cool:
The trouble is (a medical every year after age 65

billy1000
06-03-2007, 09:44
Me too, that was why I knew where U were coming from!:cool:
The trouble is (a medical every year after age 65

One every five years after 45 then as you say one every year after 65 and we have to pay for that ourselves. Some firms contribute half.

guest
06-03-2007, 09:51
One every five years after 45 then as you say one every year after 65 and we have to pay for that ourselves. Some firms contribute half.
you can find cheaper firms these days though,we can get a medical done for around 30,some people rip you off on the fee :mad: ......avoid like the plague...:)

grath
06-03-2007, 09:52
One every five years after 45 then as you say one every year after 65 and we have to pay for that ourselves. Some firms contribute half.
Billy, It would be like getting blood out of a stone with the rabble that I work 4;)

grath
06-03-2007, 09:53
you can find cheaper firms these days though,we can get a medical done for around 30,some people rip you off on the fee :mad: ......avoid like the plague...:)
My Doctor charges around 90:eek: :eek:
Edit:- I shouldn't have mentioned Doctors as I was trying to keep my mind off the nasty tests that I will be having later today!

guest
06-03-2007, 09:57
My Doctor charges around 90:eek: :eek:
OMG thats sooooooo expensive,the cheaper medicals started in shrews dr hill,he started doing it for 28 & oswestry (some places) started to follow suit cause everyone was going to shrews for it,suppose were quite lucky then :)

grath
06-03-2007, 10:03
If the firm refuses to pay, then I will not be renewing.;)
That is mega cheap Sam!:cool:

guest
06-03-2007, 10:03
My Doctor charges around 90:eek: :eek:
Edit:- I shouldn't have mentioned Doctors as I was trying to keep my mind off the nasty tests that I will be having later today!

oh its today grath,well good luck,hope alls ok....
we had some bad news last night...the doctor phoned me about my hubby you see he had a stroke a few weeks ago & lost some sight in his left eye when he went to the optician they told him he'd had a minor stroke,so he was sent to docs then referred for a ct scan for monday the 12th march,but as he has lost his balance a bit yesterday & his left arm is aching so we have to go for the ct scan at 2.45pm today i am off work now as i'm looking after him,iv been so worried at least this forum gives me something to take my mind off it :o

grath
06-03-2007, 10:06
oh its today grath,well good luck,hope alls ok....
we had some bad news last night...the doctor phoned me about my hubby you see he had a stroke a few weeks ago & lost some sight in his left eye when he went to the optician they told him he'd had a minor stroke,so he was sent to docs then referred for a ct scan for monday the 12th march,but as he has lost his balance a bit yesterday & his left arm is aching so we have to go for the ct scan at 2.45pm today i am off work now as i'm looking after him,iv been so worried at least this forum gives me something to take my mind off it :o
I know exactly where U R coming from!:eek:
Please give Hubby my best regards & I wish everything go's well.:D :cool:
Tell him to take it easy & try not to worry too much. (I know easier said than done)

guest
06-03-2007, 10:10
I know exactly where U R coming from!:eek:
Please give Hubby my best regards & I wish everything go's well.:D :cool:
Tell him to take it easy & try not to worry too much. (I know easier said than done)
less stress is best,iv been trying to get him on this forum........he will soon im sure just too much going on at the moment,he needs to relax as his work is very stressfull (in a cold store transport office) anyway im gonna walk the doggit in a min,later graham and take care yourself good luck for today x x

grath
06-03-2007, 10:14
less stress is best,iv been trying to get him on this forum........he will soon im sure just too much going on at the moment,he needs to relax as his work is very stressfull (in a cold store transport office) anyway im gonna walk the doggit in a min,later graham and take care yourself good luck for today x x
Sam, I have done the traffic office thing myself (Multi drop timed deliveries)
And it was a complete nightmare.:eek:
Tell him to get out!;)

billy1000
06-03-2007, 11:06
less stress is best,iv been trying to get him on this forum........he will soon im sure just too much going on at the moment,he needs to relax as his work is very stressfull (in a cold store transport office) anyway im gonna walk the doggit in a min,later graham and take care yourself good luck for today x x

Samm, I had what they call a TIA a few years ago which is basically a mini stroke or a warning and hey told me to take one junior aspirin each day to let the blood flow easier by thinning it.

grath
06-03-2007, 11:13
less stress is best,iv been trying to get him on this forum........he will soon im sure just too much going on at the moment,he needs to relax as his work is very stressfull (in a cold store transport office) anyway im gonna walk the doggit in a min,later graham and take care yourself good luck for today x x
Sam, just a light hearted comment. U say u r going to "walk the doggit"
Is that a new dance or are u going dogging?;) ;) :p :D

billy1000
06-03-2007, 11:19
Grath, recon the price you said is about normal nowadays. Last one I had which was 5 years ago was 73 and as i'm due one in August of this year I recon to pay about the 90 mark. Can't even claim it back on tax either.

grath
06-03-2007, 11:22
Grath, recon the price you said is about normal nowadays. Last one I had which was 5 years ago was 73 and as i'm due one in August of this year I recon to pay about the 90 mark. Can't even claim it back on tax either.
Billy, I thought that U could claim back if a genuine working expense!:confused:
Is it that U cannot claim as not part of ur work or retired?:confused:

guest
06-03-2007, 13:10
Samm, I had what they call a TIA a few years ago which is basically a mini stroke or a warning and hey told me to take one junior aspirin each day to let the blood flow easier by thinning it.
yes i believe its called a tia,hows life been since that?? hubby started taking asprin and cholestrol reducing tabs,worried about today though,i hope he will be ok,he's older than me he's 54 i'm 32 so you can understand my concern :(

guest
06-03-2007, 13:12
Sam, just a light hearted comment. U say u r going to "walk the doggit"
Is that a new dance or are u going dogging?;) ;) :p :Dha ha ha you never cease to make me smile graham :D but its a reference to walking the dog......THATS IT....HONEST.....:D :D :D

billy1000
06-03-2007, 13:37
Billy, I thought that U could claim back if a genuine working expense!:confused:
Is it that U cannot claim as not part of ur work or retired?:confused:

No, apparently you can claim if you are self employed but not on the books. Tried it last time and got knocked back. Same as self employed can claim for fuel and other costs for running between jobs, IE going to your depot and then being asked to use your own vehicle to go to another one, on the books you can't. Bit one sided like that the tax laws.

billy1000
06-03-2007, 14:03
yes i believe its called a tia,hows life been since that?? hubby started taking asprin and cholestrol reducing tabs,worried about today though,i hope he will be ok,he's older than me he's 54 i'm 32 so you can understand my concern :(

I have been ok since then Samm, not as fit as I used to be but ok generally. I am the same age as your hubby, 55 in August so can understand probably more than most how he feels. I also suffer from Emphysema and a heart condition where the blood is pumped slowly round my body rather than at the correct rate. If I was a horse I recon they would shoot me ha ha. All he can do is take things a little slowly and keep taking those junior aspirins.

rupert
06-03-2007, 14:06
Billy, how do U go on with the HGV medical:confused:

billy1000
06-03-2007, 14:37
Billy, how do U go on with the HGV medical:confused:

Ok mate apparently. I reported it to DVLA and got a reply back from them that said my condition was not a hazard to other users. The Emphysema just makes you short of breath and with the blood pumping round my body too slow it can cause a dizzy spell occasionally but with warning so that did not affect it either. I also have arthritis of the spine and again this does not affect my driving. Uncomfortable at times but not dangerous.

guest
06-03-2007, 16:04
I have been ok since then Samm, not as fit as I used to be but ok generally. I am the same age as your hubby, 55 in August so can understand probably more than most how he feels. I also suffer from Emphysema and a heart condition where the blood is pumped slowly round my body rather than at the correct rate. If I was a horse I recon they would shoot me ha ha. All he can do is take things a little slowly and keep taking those junior aspirins.
thanks for advise i really appreciate it,just got back from hospital,ct scan showed nothing conclusive so they gonna do a mri prob end of this wk or next wk,good news i suppose?? :confused:

billy1000
06-03-2007, 16:24
thanks for advise i really appreciate it,just got back from hospital,ct scan showed nothing conclusive so they gonna do a mri prob end of this wk or next wk,good news i suppose?? :confused:

Can guarantee you an MRI scan will pick up ANY problems he may have and will set your mind at rest on a lot of other things. I was getting terrific pains in my back and as a heavy smoker at that time obviously thought the worst especially as my Father had died of lung cancer. You can't imagine the relief I felt when they said I had arthritis of the spine after my MRI:) .

guest
06-03-2007, 16:28
Can guarantee you an MRI scan will pick up ANY problems he may have and will set your mind at rest on a lot of other things. I was getting terrific pains in my back and as a heavy smoker at that time obviously thought the worst especially as my Father had died of lung cancer. You can't imagine the relief I felt when they said I had arthritis of the spine after my MRI:) .
yes i can imagine billy,in a way it was good news...my hubby's mum died from a stroke,so its very scary....im sure he will be ok,i just need to de-stress him..:rolleyes:

billy1000
06-03-2007, 16:52
Plenty of time away in the van Samm. Don't know if he likes sea fishing but to me getting on a boat and out of site of land is one of the most relaxing times I have ever had. Really helps you to chill.

rupert
06-03-2007, 17:02
Ok mate apparently. I reported it to DVLA and got a reply back from them that said my condition was not a hazard to other users. The Emphysema just makes you short of breath and with the blood pumping round my body too slow it can cause a dizzy spell occasionally but with warning so that did not affect it either. I also have arthritis of the spine and again this does not affect my driving. Uncomfortable at times but not dangerous.
Billy, thanks for that, I was wondering as I may be coming into those type of problems:confused:

rupert
06-03-2007, 17:04
Sam, A little inconclusive but definitely NOT bad news, so keep Ur chin up. good luck with future tests:D

grath
06-03-2007, 17:06
Sam, A little inconclusive but definitely NOT bad news, so keep Ur chin up. good luck with future tests:D
Sam, ditto what Rupert & think lucky & U will be lucky;)

billy1000
06-03-2007, 17:18
Billy, thanks for that, I was wondering as I may be coming into those type of problems:confused:

Hope not mate. It is horrible being out of breath all the time especially when I se my 13-year old twins and can't even kick a ball about with them for more than five minutes.

rupert
06-03-2007, 17:22
Hope not mate. It is horrible being out of breath all the time especially when I se my 13-year old twins and can't even kick a ball about with them for more than five minutes.
Billy, on that score, I am there already. Asthma went out of control a few weeks ago. Changed to a turbo inhaler & everything great on that front now.;)

guest
06-03-2007, 17:25
Sam, A little inconclusive but definitely NOT bad news, so keep Ur chin up. good luck with future tests:Dthanks rupert i feel like i just had a big bear hug from you :D :D :D

guest
06-03-2007, 17:26
Plenty of time away in the van Samm. Don't know if he likes sea fishing but to me getting on a boat and out of site of land is one of the most relaxing times I have ever had. Really helps you to chill.
i agree with that billy,i will try to help him relax,cheers x :o

rupert
06-03-2007, 17:28
thanks rupert i feel like i just had a big bear hug from you :D :D :D
You did & U can have another if U like!:D ;) :D :)

guest
06-03-2007, 17:28
Sam, ditto what Rupert & think lucky & U will be lucky;)
thanks graham..........i will think lucky mate cheers...:)
how are you today after the tests..:o

grath
06-03-2007, 17:31
thanks graham..........i will think lucky mate cheers...:)
how are you today after the tests..:o
Thanks Sam, I got the all clear :cool: so I can now relax.:D Thanks again & regards to Hubby:) :)

billy1000
06-03-2007, 17:33
Billy, on that score, I am there already. Asthma went out of control a few weeks ago. Changed to a turbo inhaler & everything great on that front now.;)

So far I use subutomol, seretide and spiriva inhalors, the last two are steroid types. The inside of my bathroom cabinet in the m/h looks like a chemists counter. Keeps me going though. That's why I intend to enjoy life as much as I can.

billy1000
06-03-2007, 17:34
i agree with that billy,i will try to help him relax,cheers x :o

Just keep cheering him up like you do us with the pics Samm. That's not meant in a nasty way either. It's good to laugh.

rupert
06-03-2007, 17:37
So far I use subutomol, seretide and spiriva inhalors, the last two are steroid types. The inside of my bathroom cabinet in the m/h looks like a chemists counter. Keeps me going though. That's why I intend to enjoy life as much as I can.
WE sound like a right bunch of old timmers!:eek: :D ;) :p

billy1000
06-03-2007, 17:38
I am. An old timer that is.

guest
06-03-2007, 17:40
Just keep cheering him up like you do us with the pics Samm. That's not meant in a nasty way either. It's good to laugh.
yes i know what you mean,being on here does cheer you up,i like the banter :D :D

guest
06-03-2007, 17:42
Thanks Sam, I got the all clear :cool: so I can now relax.:D Thanks again & regards to Hubby:) :)
oh great i'm really chuffed for you graham,well done :) hubby says thanks ;)

grath
06-03-2007, 17:43
Sam, Kath & I will probably see U & Hubby sometime at Corwen or Carrog:D

guest
06-03-2007, 17:49
Sam, Kath & I will probably see U & Hubby sometime at Corwen or Carrog:D
yes i hope so,we could share a bottle of that red were always banging on about....:D

grath
06-03-2007, 17:57
yes i hope so,we could share a bottle of that red were always banging on about....:D
Did I hear the word "share". :eek: Shock, Horror!:eek: Share my precious red wine? No way, bring ur own. ha ha he he just joking but we will need more than a bottle

virgil
06-03-2007, 18:00
I use a teat on the bottle!http://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gif

grath
06-03-2007, 18:03
I use a teat on the bottle!http://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gif
Tastes a little rubbery:eek:

guest
06-03-2007, 18:04
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s166/sammclouis/ilovewine.jpg
but we will need more than a bottle
REALLY:confused: HA HA:D :D :D

billy1000
06-03-2007, 18:05
Tastes a little rubbery:eek:

I had a chinese meal the other week and said to the waiter this duck is rubbery. He said fank you verry much.

guest
06-03-2007, 18:13
I had a chinese meal the other week and said to the waiter this duck is rubbery. He said fank you verry much.
strange in it billy,mine asked me if i wanted a sore finger??:confused:

guest
06-03-2007, 18:13
I use a teat on the bottle!http://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gifhttp://mazeguy.net/edible/redwine.gif
why doesnt that surprise me,i bet its not to limit the wine either ha ha ha :D :D :D

billy1000
06-03-2007, 22:28
I like a bottle but prefer the teat.


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