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Funky Farmer
22-06-2012, 21:33
I'm watching a proggy on the community channel about a Gypsy caravan museum. They knew all about the best use of space. If it repeats well worth a look.

Chn 539

Bushtrekker
23-06-2012, 06:43
Gypsies and narrow boat people raised hordes of kids in a space which we wouldn't even consider if we were looking for a boat or motorhome, but are things any better, or is it just that we live more cluttered lives. Both gypsies and boat people lived far more closely with nature, getting food where they could find it and not needing to carry more equipment than they needed. The travelling community were far more community oriented than most people are today, and children had jobs to do, in the same way that children have in the third world today.

Children of both communities might not be able to read or write, until education for the travelling community got better, but they knew how to set a snare for rabbits or hares, or knock a pheasant out of a tree, skills that the mainstream society forgot when they started farming in the Neolithic period. Hunting and gathering are both skills which would once have been second nature to everyone, but with a few exceptions have now become trendy, pushed by middle and upper class authors and TV chefs as though hunting and gathering involves new skills that they are suddenly experts at.

If you fancy a good read round the campfire, or on those rainy days when you are stuck in the van, I can recommend 'Kenzie the Wild Goose Man', by Colin Willock and if you are interested, type in Jack Hargreaves on You Tube.

keithhep
23-06-2012, 08:49
Gypsies and narrow boat people raised hordes of kids in a space which we wouldn't even consider if we were looking for a boat or motorhome, but are things any better, or is it just that we live more cluttered lives. Both gypsies and boat people lived far more closely with nature, getting food where they could find it and not needing to carry more equipment than they needed. The travelling community were far more community oriented than most people are today, and children had jobs to do, in the same way that children have in the third world today.

Children of both communities might not be able to read or write, until education for the travelling community got better, but they knew how to set a snare for rabbits or hares, or knock a pheasant out of a tree, skills that the mainstream society forgot when they started farming in the Neolithic period. Hunting and gathering are both skills which would once have been second nature to everyone, but with a few exceptions have now become trendy, pushed by middle and upper class authors and TV chefs as though hunting and gathering involves new skills that they are suddenly experts at.

If you fancy a good read round the campfire, or on those rainy days when you are stuck in the van, I can recommend 'Kenzie the Wild Goose Man', by Colin Willock and if you are interested, type in Jack Hargreaves on You Tube.

That brings back memories of Colin Willock writing in the Angling Times, and I used to love Jack Hargreaves on the Out of Town programme on Meridian TV.

Learned a lot from both of them.

Funky Farmer
23-06-2012, 09:12
That brings back memories of Colin Willock writing in the Angling Times, and I used to love Jack Hargreaves on the Out of Town programme on Meridian TV.

Learned a lot from both of them.

I used to go sea fishing with Jack on Southern TV Now that is showing my age LOL

Bushtrekker
23-06-2012, 10:34
and Simon King had a lot more hair on Country Boy

vindiboy
23-06-2012, 18:16
I knew Jack when he lived at Minstead in the New Forest, just up the road from us, lovely man of the soil, great character.I too was a Southern TV watcher ,when it was transmitted from the old Plaza Cinema where we used to go for our Saturday morning pictures before it became a TV studio, happy days.

vwalan
23-06-2012, 18:38
heres one for anyone that wants to tug a camper
Gregs Gypsy Bowtop Caravans - Home (http://www.gregsgypsybowtops.co.uk/) i like these .not so keen on the price but like the concept .

Funky Farmer
23-06-2012, 18:56
heres one for anyone that wants to tug a camper
Gregs Gypsy Bowtop Caravans - Home (http://www.gregsgypsybowtops.co.uk/) i like these .not so keen on the price but like the concept .


They certainly do look good. How much do they cost? I couldn't find a price. Not that I could afford it anyway:cry:

vindiboy
23-06-2012, 19:02
we have a visit from a hooped Gypsy Caravan a couple of times a year where we live, [ VADAs ] Ithink they are called, lovely old Horse pulls it, they camp up on a grass verge of the road , stay a week or so cook on an open fire , and move on never leave any mess or cause problems, proper Gypsies they are.

donkey too
23-06-2012, 19:32
It looked good being pulled by a Bongo as well. :bow::bow::bow:

vwalan
23-06-2012, 21:08
yes i have a bongo and think i could replicate that quite well.
nothing wrong with a good gypsy caravan or the people . i live very close to several families that used to travel the roads of england . i would sooner trust them than loads of others .
my dad used to say he would love to travel around in a gypsy caravan and horse. as it was we always had campers or tents . i do think he may be travelling around up there in one now though . bet he as a big smile on his face. bet my mum is with him possibly making pegs and may even be playing a wash board . hee hee .

dolmen
24-06-2012, 09:57
I've seen somewhere that one was being towed by an old Massey 135 tractor with a cab, guy said that it had gotten too busy on the roads for a horse, and this was safer and easier to run!
I'd like it, but may get too much unwanted attention!
Read about another guy that was heading to China some years back, don't know how he got on ...
Cheers

vwalan
24-06-2012, 10:14
not quite gypsy but many of us know romeo .that hangs around in portugal he tows with a tractor .been on the road several years now heres a pic.62166217
great chap .as a lovely dog with him as well. bet his rig is on several photo collections . have known him for about 12 years now .very friendly.

dolmen
24-06-2012, 12:38
Tnx for that, cheap insurance of about 55GBP, zero road tax, eating no hay when parked up, certainly a cheap means of getting on the road ... I'd have a warning light on the back, just incase ...

vwalan
24-06-2012, 12:45
easily made. it was transfered onto different axles at one time to allow easily obtainable tyres etc . i thought it was a great idea .
mind last time i saw him he was having difficulty with a valve problem on the rear tractor wheel . we blew his tyre up for him and took it to a local farm place that by luck had a old one that got him out of the problem for awhile .

pink
24-06-2012, 12:58
heres one for anyone that wants to tug a camper
Gregs Gypsy Bowtop Caravans - Home (http://www.gregsgypsybowtops.co.uk/) i like these .not so keen on the price but like the concept .

They,re gorgeous! I,d love to have a job painting those

vwalan
24-06-2012, 13:03
hi pink .there are several truck conversions out there that would love to have it done . dont think the pay would be high though . i keep thinking of doing some pinlinning or something on mine .i quite like the fairground gypsy look. .think there may be a few teardrops as well that would love it as well. you will have to get out on the road .bet you could exist if you had to. i take it you are into that sort of work?

pink
24-06-2012, 13:32
hi pink .there are several truck conversions out there that would love to have it done . dont think the pay would be high though . i keep thinking of doing some pinlinning or something on mine .i quite like the fairground gypsy look. .think there may be a few teardrops as well that would love it as well. you will have to get out on the road .bet you could exist if you had to. i take it you are into that sort of work?

hiya, i agree,the pay would be minimal, but the satisfaction of seeing someone pleased with the work would be worth it..i paint for a hobby,although i have done a commission (horse), i,ll put some pics up,..i,ve cut my working hours done now and wouldnt be solely dependent on any income i got from painting...i,ll see...going to get myself sorted in the mh before chasing any more dreams...wont be on the road for more than a few days at a time as i,ll be sited on my working days...

vwalan
24-06-2012, 13:44
hi. you will soon get into it . i have kept the house so summer is here .in winter its off to warmer .drier climates . we do tend to have lots of alternative travellers as friends . mind lots of very expensive trucks owned german couples are getting alsorts done to be different. might start or restart the craze.

pink
24-06-2012, 14:57
hi. you will soon get into it . i have kept the house so summer is here .in winter its off to warmer .drier climates . we do tend to have lots of alternative travellers as friends . mind lots of very expensive trucks owned german couples are getting alsorts done to be different. might start or restart the craze.

yes, i,ve checked a couple of campervan hire sites out and theres one that has painted the vans all over in different themes..certainly make a statement lol, do you paint?

vwalan
24-06-2012, 15:18
hi pink. not really .i used to do custom paintwork on cars vans and trikes etc .not really airbrush style but now i seem to jmust play at building trucks for mates etc . i still spray .and in fact only paint trucks now .mind my lads keep returning to have their vans repainted and straightened. you may enjoy time down in maroc .there asre a few artists that still use brushes .the back of mine was done 10 yrs ago by a morocan friend kalid .6220622162226223
the purple one was also done by kalid about 4 yrs ago . these are all the sort of morocco pics most have done if down there.

n brown
24-06-2012, 16:30
talking about pinlining,i met a bloke in taghazoute called shaky dave,liked adrink and travelled with a sleeping bag and brushes.he'd sit looking at the van with his brush shaking in his hand and suddenly whack the brush onto the body work and do perfect lines!

vwalan
24-06-2012, 16:45
hi cant say as i know him. closest i get is not using brushes but a beugler pinstriper roller. had it several years now .use it on m,bike tanks and on vw vans .it came with a magnetic stripe you can use as a guide . nice tool but it would be nice to be able to use brushes . but then we cant do every thing 6225
here is my ex ,s bike .this was my first go at it . it came out ok .not exactly a perfect job but it did get a prize at a bike show .any bikers recognise the model.

Bushtrekker
24-06-2012, 16:59
They,re gorgeous! I,d love to have a job painting those

Why don't you paint yours, then you might find you have a career change on the cards x

n brown
24-06-2012, 17:41
They,re gorgeous! I,d love to have a job painting those

i've just started to paint a vardo thing i've just made,and i'm crap at painting and wish i could afford to pay someone to do it.this bristol guy reckons 1500 to paint one

vwalan
24-06-2012, 20:14
seems to me we might know a young female artist that might like to have a go for you .practice makes perfect and all that.
thats how many business,s start .could be rushed off her feet rthis time next year .might even be in the going abroad on expenses for tax bit .ha ha .

Bushtrekker
24-06-2012, 20:19
She is very good, especially with animal subjects.

vwalan
24-06-2012, 20:35
there is a market for it. i have a mate now that would like a pic of fort william on the back of his truck with what ever mountain it is in the back ground .he has been considering a photo transfered to a vynil wrap. but as its the purple truck painting is prefered.

pink
26-06-2012, 12:36
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having a go with acrylics

pink
26-06-2012, 12:39
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