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John Thompson
26-06-2012, 12:02
Link to the original here:

Multa de más de mil euros por aparcar su coche con su caravana en la playa - La Opinión de Murcia (http://www.laopiniondemurcia.es/cartagena/2012/06/06/multa-mil-euros-aparcar-coche-caravana-playa/408147.html)

This is a translation:




Fine of over a thousand euros to park his car with his caravan on the beach
The Supreme Court confirmed the penalty imposed on a man to break with their vehicles Playa Paraiso

The Litigation Division of the Superior Court of Justice of the Region of Murcia (TSJ) dismissed an action brought against a man of 1,050 euro fine levied by the Segura River Basin (CHS) to place your car and your caravan on the sand of the beach paradise of Cabo de Palos, deploy and install an awning chairs.

The basin authority considered that this action, committed by the convicted in August of 2004, was constituting a grave breach of the Coastal Act, and agreed to impose the said penalty, which was appealed to the High Court of Justice.
In the appeal to the judge, the defendant argued that the disciplinary proceedings had expired by agreeing to the penalty, that it was not motivated and that the acts attributed to him had not occurred.
The Litigation Division of the Supreme Court has rejected all the allegations presented by the man in a sentence stating that "the facts were discovered by Civil Guard officers at the time that occurred and that the fine was imposed" from correctly in a minimum "the offender.
This statement shows that you can not camp or park vehicles on beaches, with the risk of being punished, as the star of this event, with over a thousand euros.

John

John H
26-06-2012, 12:09
Hi John

The translation is not all it might be so it is a little difficult to follow exactly what the chain of events was but am I right in thinking the following?

The fine was for deploying an awning and chairs (ie camping rather than parking); and

The ban applies to parking on the sand, not on land above the sand line (can't imagine why anybody would want to drive a heavy motorhome onto the sand anyway!)

Are you in Spain at the moment?

John Thompson
26-06-2012, 12:32
Hi John

The translation is not all it might be so it is a little difficult to follow exactly what the chain of events was but am I right in thinking the following?

The fine was for deploying an awning and chairs (ie camping rather than parking); and

The ban applies to parking on the sand, not on land above the sand line (can't imagine why anybody would want to drive a heavy motorhome onto the sand anyway!)

Are you in Spain at the moment?

Hi John

No we are in the UK until September, then intend spending the winter wild parking in Spain. I picked the info up from a post on the El Portus forum.

It would seem to me that the police (Park Authority) claimed he had put out an awning and chairs as well as parking his car and caravan on the beach. He argued he had not, but lost the case. The translation was done by Google translate, that is why I posted the original link.

The Coastal Act I understand relates to any land where the wind can blow the beach sand too. So it is not just the sand area beside the water. Building in that zone are at risk of compulsory demolition. Some of the houses in El Portus village (not the naturist site) and part of the village car park are a under demolition order under this act. This act is being applied retrospectively, so even if PP was granted the act overrides it.

Motorhomes can still park if they don't put anything outside. ie steps, water containers, awnings or chairs under the 2008.01.28 Normativa Trafico Autocaravanas - 08/V-74.

John

kenspain
26-06-2012, 13:33
When my step son told me this was going to happen i posted it on here the next day also about the roads that were being closed of to motorhomes At the end of the day it is some of us that has caused this to happen not just English but other county's as well. I must say that some times when i go to the beach and see what some of the owners get up to i can understand why this as happend.:wave:

kenspain
26-06-2012, 13:36
Hi John

No we are in the UK until September, then intend spending the winter wild parking in Spain. I picked the info up from a post on the El Portus forum.

It would seem to me that the police (Park Authority) claimed he had put out an awning and chairs as well as parking his car and caravan on the beach. He argued he had not, but lost the case. The translation was done by Google translate, that is why I posted the original link.

The Coastal Act I understand relates to any land where the wind can blow the beach sand too. So it is not just the sand area beside the water. Building in that zone are at risk of compulsory demolition. Some of the houses in El Portus village (not the naturist site) and part of the village car park are a under demolition order under this act. This act is being applied retrospectively, so even if PP was granted the act overrides it.

Motorhomes can still park if they don't put anything outside. ie steps, water containers, awnings or chairs under the 2008.01.28 Normativa Trafico Autocaravanas - 08/V-74.

John

John i agree with what you saying but if the road to the beach is closed to motorhomes how do you intend getting down to the beach by breaking the law.:wave:

John H
26-06-2012, 13:38
Hi John

No we are in the UK until September, then intend spending the winter wild parking in Spain. I picked the info up from a post on the El Portus forum.

It would seem to me that the police (Park Authority) claimed he had put out an awning and chairs as well as parking his car and caravan on the beach. He argued he had not, but lost the case. The translation was done by Google translate, that is why I posted the original link.

The Coastal Act I understand relates to any land where the wind can blow the beach sand too. So it is not just the sand area beside the water. Building in that zone are at risk of compulsory demolition. Some of the houses in El Portus village (not the naturist site) and part of the village car park are a under demolition order under this act. This act is being applied retrospectively, so even if PP was granted the act overrides it.

Motorhomes can still park if they don't put anything outside. ie steps, water containers, awnings or chairs under the 2008.01.28 Normativa Trafico Autocaravanas - 08/V-74.

John

Thanks for that, John - it is good to know that we can still park in front of beaches. We are going to Spain this winter, so, who knows, our paths may cross. In the meantime, have a good trip and enjoy the sun!

kenspain
26-06-2012, 14:57
Unless they remove the sign,s in the winter i might just find that some beaches you wont be able to get to i am sorry to say they have stopped getting down to one of the fishing beaches we have been going to 7 years now and we on go on a Saturday night and return home mid day Sunday they came down last weekend but we only got a warning so make sure that before you go down a road that leads to the beach there is no sign been put up.


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