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Bushtrekker
28-07-2012, 06:10
I didn't watch the opening ceremony last night, but picked up on the James Bond bit on BBC News this morning. That was a classic and full marks to whoever set it up. I think they may be round here this morning as a police helicopter has been over the woods behind my house for half an hour:lol-053:

One thing did puzzle though. Why did they do the greeting for the royals in French before doing it in English?

Smaug
28-07-2012, 06:28
(snip)
One thing did puzzle though. Why did they do the greeting for the royals in French before doing it in English?

Doncha know we are still governed by the Norman Aristocracy, 1,000 years after the invasion of Guilliame le Bastarde? :scared:

Us Serfs may use Anglo-Saxon, but La Francais est plus importante. :lol-053:

Thorgrim
28-07-2012, 06:28
The opening ceremony was great, much better than I had expected.
The Olympic rules state that the anouncements must be in French first. Probably because the founder was French.

Bushtrekker
28-07-2012, 07:28
...doesn't sound very French to me. Dr.Brookes started the modern Olympic games in Much Wenlock

olympic games+much wenlock - Google Search (http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1DSGQ_enGB481&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=olympic+games%2Bmuch+wenlock)

, so the French had no involvement in its foundation, although it's possible that at a later stage someone like the first chair of the IOC may have been French. Personally I feel that the language if the host nation should take precedence if it's supposed to be an international event.

My feelings about the whole event haven't changed though. We're in recession, less police than ever, closing nursing homes and cutting benefits, but apparently we can still spend billions on sport. Something is seriously wrong somewhere.

Northerner
28-07-2012, 07:28
French is the official language of the games.

Dezi
28-07-2012, 07:36
Having time to wait while Madam finished getting ready prior to going out I checked my e mails. One from brotherinlaw in Florida, "excellent opening ceremony".

I then looked at news from around the World. 95% seemed to think that we had got it right & all were very positive about the experience.

Some time ago I was explaining to Daniel a French farmer we know, that the one thing Brits were very good at was taking the P**s out of ourselves & others.

Rowen Atkinson & Simon Rattle showed that perverse streak off to perfection last night & it seems to have gone down very well.

As for French citizens walking along waving the Union jack, well I never thought I would see the day, brilliant.

Dezi :pc:

Northerner
28-07-2012, 07:39
...doesn't sound very French to me. Dr.Brookes started the modern Olympic games in Much Wenlock

olympic games+much wenlock - Google Search (http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1DSGQ_enGB481&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=olympic+games%2Bmuch+wenlock)

, so the French had no involvement in its foundation, although it's possible that at a later stage someone like the first chair of the IOC may have been French. Personally I feel that the language if the host nation should take precedence if it's supposed to be an international event.

My feelings about the whole event haven't changed though. We're in recession, less police than ever, closing nursing homes and cutting benefits, but apparently we can still spend billions on sport. Something is seriously wrong somewhere.

I see, so when it's in Korea or Norway or let's have everything in some of the world's minority languages. This is an international event, broadcast all over the world. French is the language of diplomacy, English the global lingua franca.

The Olympics will end up making money for Britain and we'll have more money to spend on nursing homes and police. But we first started the campaign to bring the Olympics to Britain nearly ten years ago. We won the right seven years ago and now you appear to be suggesting that when the recession started we should have abandoned the whole thing? Mmm, great idea. Sorry folks, stop the construction, cancel all the contracts, bugger our reputation, we've changed our mind.

Last night Britain showed the world what we can do. The knock on effects for tourism are incalculable. Don't you think that perhaps it may be time to stop this constant denigration and whinging and get behind your country and its young people?

Northerner
28-07-2012, 07:44
Having time to wait while Madam finished getting ready prior to going out I checked my e mails. One from brotherinlaw in Florida, "excellent opening ceremony".

I then looked at news from around the World. 95% seemed to think that we had got it right & all were very positive about the experience.

Some time ago I was explaining to Daniel a French farmer we know, that the one thing Brits were very good at was taking the P**s out of ourselves & others.

Rowen Atkinson & Simon Rattle showed that perverse streak off to perfection last night & it seems to have gone down very well.

As for French citizens walking along waving the Union jack, well I never thought I would see the day, brilliant.

Dezi :pc:

It was staggering, both in its imagination and implementation. The story of Britain and what we've achieved and what we've contributed to the world. Breathtaking in parts, moving and emotional in parts, funny and self deprecating and a technological achievement that I simply wasn't expecting. Where did those factory chimneys come from! And the closing part when the flame was lit How can anyone moan after that?

Arise Sir Daniel Boyle!

Randonneur
28-07-2012, 07:49
Just one word for the Olympic opening ceremony :- SPECTACULAR!!!!! :heart:

Big respect to the organisers and participants. That olympic flame structure must have taken some engineering to pull off! :hammer:

It just goes to show that Britain is up there with the best of them when it comes to pageantry and showmanship.

But..... watching the BBC news this morning, there are some commentators from other countries who are saying that the opening ceremony was TOO BRITISH!!

Excuse me but just what country are we in?? :confused:

Anyway, I hope our athletes do well and put Britain back at the forefront of sporting excellence. :goodluck:

jamesmarshall
28-07-2012, 08:06
Absolutely superb. Danny Boyle done good. Good luck to Mark Cavendish today.

Sparks
28-07-2012, 08:27
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fishy & Nina
28-07-2012, 08:43
I must say that the lead up to The Games has been boring me to tears......everyday, talking heads talking about.....not very much really!

HOWEVER, I did watch most of the opening ceremony and was blown away! What an event! The atmosphere inside the stadium must have been fantastic! The look on Mr. Branagh's face, as the Rings were lifted above the stage, said it all to me - he looked totally overawed!

Great for The Games, Great for The Country - now let's do the Business:dance:

ian

Douzeper
28-07-2012, 12:26
Thought the opening ceremony was excellent!! really really well done.

Can't justify the 27,000,000 that was spent on it but it was spectacular.

Canalsman
28-07-2012, 13:35
Spectacular and fantastic!

Well done!

(Going to watch it again tonight - I'm sure there's lots I missed last night ...)

lotty
28-07-2012, 14:03
I really enjoyed the opening ceremony last night. I watched it all, I will probably not watch much of the actual games themselves as I'm not really into the sports, Maybe the odd bit here and there? However I felt I had to watch and was very glad I did. I loved the Bond film with Her Majesty, I love the idea of the Queen jumping out of a helicopter! lol. (and it was great to see David Beckham looking soooo good :heart:)
The cauldron lighting was amazing, what a piece of art and I loved how it all moved to form one large tourch!
I liked how they got the 7 young athletes who were nominated by previous Olympic athletes to light the cauldron.
I was also confused as to the reason of the French announcments before the English as it is in the UK, however, if them the rules, them the rules!
I was not impressed by the chap doing a Nazi salute as the German team walked in, it took about 1 minute for it to be all over facebook and youtube and the look of horror on the Dutchess of Cornwall's face as she looked on from behind him! :scared:
otherwise great show, Well done everyone involved :rockroll:

Funky Farmer
28-07-2012, 14:23
I don't think the Gezzer intended it as a Nazi salute, Lotty. He raised his left hand. I admit it did look odd though

bopper
28-07-2012, 15:14
I really enjoyed the opening ceremony last night. I watched it all, I will probably not watch much of the actual games themselves as I'm not really into the sports, Maybe the odd bit here and there? However I felt I had to watch and was very glad I did. I loved the Bond film with Her Majesty, I love the idea of the Queen jumping out of a helicopter! lol. (and it was great to see David Beckham looking soooo good :heart:)
The cauldron lighting was amazing, what a piece of art and I loved how it all moved to form one large tourch!
I liked how they got the 7 young athletes who were nominated by previous Olympic athletes to light the cauldron.
I was also confused as to the reason of the French announcments before the English as it is in the UK, however, if them the rules, them the rules!
I was not impressed by the chap doing a Nazi salute as the German team walked in, it took about 1 minute for it to be all over facebook and youtube and the look of horror on the Dutchess of Cornwall's face as she looked on from behind him! :scared:
otherwise great show, Well done everyone involved :rockroll:

The whole concept of carrying a torch from Olympiad to the games themselves was started by the Nazi's in 1936. It's a Nazi ceremony!

n brown
28-07-2012, 15:15
I don't think the Gezzer intended it as a Nazi salute, Lotty. He raised his left hand. I admit it did look odd though

made me click my heels when i saw him !

Firefox
28-07-2012, 16:50
The whole concept of carrying a torch from Olympiad to the games themselves was started by the Nazi's in 1936. It's a Nazi ceremony!

True, for all their other faults, the Nazis were almost as good at pomp and ceremony as the Brits and the olympic torch relay was their invention.

Smaug
28-07-2012, 17:21
I'm just watching the Bint's footy in Cardiff & the stadium is almost empty. Who said there is a shortage of tickets! They are clearly charging far oo much for them. The Millenium stadium holds something like 60K there can't be more than 20k in there. Tickets should be down to a fiver for the less popular ones - the stadiums really should be filled - especially when everyone is complaining they can't get tickets!

Bushtrekker
28-07-2012, 17:41
Not content with being investigated by French police for attending a Nazi themed stag party, her has now apparently said on Twitter that the opening ceremony was too multi-cultural and too left wing. I have to admit that although it was an amazing achievement to pull it all together, I watched the bit I did see from the perspective of someone from another country and wondered what they would make of some of it. I'm not sure that someone from a remote island in the pacific would have a clue who Isambarde Kingdom Brunel was. I had problems working out what some of the scenes involving a young black guy were about.

Northerner
28-07-2012, 17:49
I'm just watching the Bint's footy in Cardiff & the stadium is almost empty. Who said there is a shortage of tickets! They are clearly charging far oo much for them. The Millenium stadium holds something like 60K there can't be more than 20k in there. Tickets should be down to a fiver for the less popular ones - the stadiums really should be filled - especially when everyone is complaining they can't get tickets!

Oh my God, the bints' football match. Have I slipped into an episode of Life on Mars? Are we back in the '80s? ;)

I don't really think that the ticket price will make the slightest difference. Tickets are available from 20, and less for seniors and young people.

The simple fact is that there are some events that only have a minority interest and I really don't believe that lowering the ticket price will significantly increase revenues. So now we have 20,000 people paying let's say, an average of 30 per ticket. Total income 600,000. Halve the ticket prices and you have to double the numbers just to break even. But if you only increase the numbers by say 25% your income drops from 600,000 to 375,000.

If you do a last-minute drop to encourage more bums on seats you then annoy the first 20,000 who've paid full price and then see a load of people coming in for a fraction of what they paid.

So, like all business decisions, it's not as simple as many people think, and the fact that the very popular events are full, suggests that the pricing structure must be reasonably accurate. It's also very difficult if you discriminate by, for instance, saying that women's football will be half the price of men's football. You are immediately suggesting that girls' football has less value than boys'. A bit of a minefield there!

Northerner
28-07-2012, 18:11
I get all that but as a participant it must be so much more of an olympic experience to see a full stadium ?
I know a difficult one but I am sure some solution could be found to give the tickets away .
They will still make some extra revenue as people will buy food and drink and souvenirs etc
Maybe they could just ask for a charitable donation ?

And what would happen? In these minority sports everyone would wait until the last minute and ask for a free ticket! So you don't sell any, lose 600,000 revenue. And of course profit on food goes to catering companies that have paid vast amounts for the privilege of being there. The organisers wouldn't get a penny, and quite right too!

People would be understandably peeved if they'd paid 60 for the top-price tickets and then the organisers start giving them away. As I said, business decisions such as this are not that simple!

Regrettably, the number of people interested in sports such as women's football would still mean that, even if tickets could be free, there would probably be lots of empty seats!

Northerner
28-07-2012, 18:22
Sorted !
The Chinese bussed in rent a crowd spectators we could see if they are still available ?:lol-049:

I know, living in a Communist dictatorship has some advantages! They also forcibly evicted thousands of people to make way for the construction projects. That's why they won gold in the 'Close-range shooting people in the back of the head' category! :scared:

runnach
28-07-2012, 18:45
I missed the opening ceremony, I had good idea prior to event, that it would be something spectacular, I'm going to watch if soon, via bbci player.:wave:

rach82
28-07-2012, 18:53
I watched bits of it - I thought it was excellant:D
Much better than I thought!

I watched some of the entering of the countrys and have to say I dont think I had heard of about 70% of them - Really:scared: Did anyone else feel that way or am I just stupid??

lotty
28-07-2012, 19:08
I watched bits of it - I thought it was excellant:D
Much better than I thought!

I watched some of the entering of the countrys and have to say I dont think I had heard of about 70% of them - Really:scared: Did anyone else feel that way or am I just stupid??

same here! lol
It was a good job there were commentators to tell me where they all are! :o

rach82
28-07-2012, 19:11
Thanks Lotty!!;)

I dont feel quite so stupid now!

scampa
28-07-2012, 19:15
Thanks Lotty!!;)

I dont feel quite so stupid now!

I'm very sorry, but the rest of us knew exactly where all those countries were, so it's just you two I'm afraid!

(Only joking, I didn't even see the ceremony! :))

Gary Johnson
28-07-2012, 19:29
Well I enjoyed it , it included our history, our heritage in a way that made you feel proud to be British . It was funny and moving at times and a credit to all the performers and Danny Boyle.

The highlights were clever and many, the only low was McCartney , he is past it and can`t sing any more , it was awful and embarrassing .

The oddest event was the German official doing a Nazi salute to the German athletics , the picture of it went viral on Twitter because of Boris and Camilla reaction , their faces are brilliant.

Gary

John H
28-07-2012, 21:46
I get all that but as a participant it must be so much more of an olympic experience to see a full stadium ?
I know a difficult one but I am sure some solution could be found to give the tickets away .
They will still make some extra revenue as people will buy food and drink and souvenirs etc
Maybe they could just ask for a charitable donation ?

The problem of empty seats is currently being investigated but I suspect that the reason is the same as the reason why you always see empty seats at major events - from the FA Cup Final to Wimbledon - that these are corporate seats that go along with sponsorship and are handed out free to clients/staff etc who are in large part not interested in the event but in socialising in the bar. The only way round this is to give fewer seats to the sponsors but then you might get less sponsorship. Would that be a good thing? Possibly - it depends on your view of the way sport has gone in the past half century. Maybe we should return to the days of sportsmen being paid no more than factory workers but, having got to where we are it would be very difficult to go back without a time machine! :D

bopper
29-07-2012, 11:02
So far I have managed to see NONE of the Olympics or the opening ceremony. I am enjoying it immensely!

Must watch F1 today, Hamilton could win, he's on pole position. Here's a proper sport that we are brilliant at! (Motor Sport, not game as in game of football, game of tennis etc:)

Northerner
29-07-2012, 11:07
So far I have managed to see NONE of the Olympics or the opening ceremony. I am enjoying it immensely!

I wonder what it is that makes people enjoy not experiencing something? Most odd! Before I peg out I want to try everything that I can, and if I find that I don't like something I'll stop doing it, but until you try you never know what you may have missed.

And boy, have you missed something remarkable, enjoyable and uplifting. But, if that's not your thing who are we to deter you from wearing your hair shirt!

tugga
29-07-2012, 12:32
I sat and watched it with a glass of chilled wine and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I thought after the Beijing handover to us where a london double decker came in with the lovely David Beckham kicking a football was really pathetic so our opening ceremony would be the same - pathetic! But I must say that Danny Boyle did us proud, as I am sure our Athletes will do.

My favourite parts where the smelting rings rising, Rowan Atkinson, James Bond and the Queen and the lighting of the very, very stylish Cauldron. I was just spellbound by it all. I didn't understand the red dancers and the man and boy with Emeli Sande singing 'Heaven'? Was that to do with the 7/11 London bombings does anyone know?

All in all, a thoroughly good effort by everyone, including the builders of the stadium.

Cheryl

coolasluck
29-07-2012, 12:44
I really enjoyed the opening ceremony last night. I watched it all, I will probably not watch much of the actual games themselves as I'm not really into the sports, Maybe the odd bit here and there? However I felt I had to watch and was very glad I did. I loved the Bond film with Her Majesty, I love the idea of the Queen jumping out of a helicopter! lol. (and it was great to see David Beckham looking soooo good :heart:)
The cauldron lighting was amazing, what a piece of art and I loved how it all moved to form one large tourch!
I liked how they got the 7 young athletes who were nominated by previous Olympic athletes to light the cauldron.
I was also confused as to the reason of the French announcments before the English as it is in the UK, however, if them the rules, them the rules!
I was not impressed by the chap doing a Nazi salute as the German team walked in, it took about 1 minute for it to be all over facebook and youtube and the look of horror on the Dutchess of Cornwall's face as she looked on from behind him! :scared:
otherwise great show, Well done everyone involved :rockroll:






So i am not the only one that saw the salute,i have to admit that i turned it back and watched 3 times,cracked me up that did,couldnt quite believe it.I noted nothing was commented on at the time:lol-053:

vindiboy
30-07-2012, 10:54
We were on a CCC Rally this weekend and a TV was set up for the Olympic opening Ceremony, about 30 people watched it, most drifted away early and the TV was switched off before the show finished as none were watching, most thought it rubbish ,I thought the rings igniting was good , the Rest ? Emperors New Clothes I thought.

Northerner
30-07-2012, 11:17
That's definite then, I'm never going to join the C&CC if that's the average member!

Northerner
30-07-2012, 11:22
So i am not the only one that saw the salute,i have to admit that i turned it back and watched 3 times,cracked me up that did,couldnt quite believe it.I noted nothing was commented on at the time:lol-053:

I've watched it and I don't believe that it was a Nazi salute. If you look closely at both him and his wife they were giving the kind of horizontal arm movement that you do when you're waving a flag. On the video clip their arms were moving from left to right but in a still image it looks as though it's a salute. Apart from which anyone really wanting to do a Nazi salute wouldn't use their left hand!

Just another example I'm afraid of people wanting something to have a moan about!

Canalsman
30-07-2012, 11:54
We were on a CCC Rally this weekend and a TV was set up for the Olympic opening Ceremony, about 30 people watched it, most drifted away early and the TV was switched off before the show finished as none were watching, most thought it rubbish ,I thought the rings igniting was good , the Rest ? Emperors New Clothes I thought.

Boring old farts :)

coolasluck
30-07-2012, 11:59
I've watched it and I don't believe that it was a Nazi salute. If you look closely at both him and his wife they were giving the kind of horizontal arm movement that you do when you're waving a flag. On the video clip their arms were moving from left to right but in a still image it looks as though it's a salute. Apart from which anyone really wanting to do a Nazi salute wouldn't use their left hand!

Just another example I'm afraid of people wanting something to have a moan about!







yes,i am aware that the salute was with the wrong arm,but from the camera angle it most deffinatly looked like a salute,on you tube e.t.c other angles show it a bit differant.I did find it amusing as others did,but you will as you say always get the moaners trying to make something of it.Whilst i checked out the salute clip i also found a clip of the indian team with a strange unknown woman marching with the team:)'Mystery woman' leads Indian contingent at Olympics - Tv9 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDASA24eIw)

Northerner
30-07-2012, 12:15
yes,i am aware that the salute was with the wrong arm,but from the camera angle it most deffinatly looked like a salute,on you tube e.t.c other angles show it a bit differant.I did find it amusing as others did,but you will as you say always get the moaners trying to make something of it.Whilst i checked out the salute clip i also found a clip of the indian team with a strange unknown woman marching with the team:)'Mystery woman' leads Indian contingent at Olympics - Tv9 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDASA24eIw)

I've had another look at a picture and his wife appears to be doing the same thing as her arm is outstretched but she's holding a scarf, which she is quite clearly waving from side to side, but if you look at a still image it looks as if they are just extending their arms when in fact they are moving them side to side. They are quite old and may have difficulty lifting their arms properly but to me the most important thing is that I do not believe for one second that a member of the German delegation would give a Nazi salute at an event like this, where he is in being filmed by dozens of cameras. It makes no sense!

As we know there are so many people out there just waiting to be offended and to jump on anything, not matter how weak or spurious, and this is a typical example. It it was a Nazi salute he will be in court in his homeland very quickly. They take this kind of thing seriously in Germany as they are very sensitive about their past.


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