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antiquesam
08-02-2013, 16:12
My van battery was flat this morning when I tried to start the van. Now we get to the stupid bit. Would it be possible to jump start the van taking a charge, with leads, from the leisure battery to the van battery?

n brown
08-02-2013, 16:22
yes.if you haven't done it before,good jump leads connect red positive to positive and negative to negative

sparrks
08-02-2013, 16:24
Use proper jump leads, I would leave them connected for 10mins or so for the batteries to equalize and then remove the leads and hopefully it will start with no risk to your leisure batt. A lot will depend on how easy the engine normally starts. If it doesn't start reconnect the leads and try with both batts connected, repeated use of this method could damage the leisure battery. I use a portable battery booster/charger which contains a 20A sealed battery, starts the car (Petrol) very easy, I haven't tried it on a diesel.

antiquesam
08-02-2013, 16:34
Thank you for that. I did think about doing it but thought it might b*gg*r up the leisure battery.

Firefox
09-02-2013, 05:52
Leisure batteries are actually starter batteries with different labels on.

In fact many leisure batteries actually state they can be used for starting.

phillybarbour
09-02-2013, 06:02
Never needed to try this but good to know it's not a problem if I'm stuck.

Wooie1958
09-02-2013, 08:39
Buy a new Battery if it`s not holding it`s charge, Euro Car Parts have a sale on right now :-

Car Batteries (http://www.eurocarparts.com/car-batteries)

antiquesam
09-02-2013, 11:04
I think you are probably right, but not perhaps at Those sale prices.

Wooie1958
09-02-2013, 13:28
I think you are probably right, but not perhaps at Those sale prices.


Did you use the Promo Code " ALL20 " ?

I`ve not long since renewed my Battery with a .......Exide Premium EA1000, 100AH and 900CCA .....and a 4 year warranty.

Mine had`nt gone completely but once or twice it was a bit lazy starting and the last thing you want in the middle of " MAMBA Land "

is the dreaded Click, Click, Click as you try and start.


Better price at Car Parts 4 Less :-

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/basket.php

Same company better prices but not available to collect, Free delivery only.

Cliffy
09-02-2013, 20:46
Leisure batteries are actually starter batteries with different labels on.

In fact many leisure batteries actually state they can be used for starting.

I think I would rather believe the information here. What is the difference between a Car Battery and a Leisure Battery (http://www.advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/press49differencebetweencarbatteryandleisurebatter y.html)

sparrks
09-02-2013, 20:53
I think I would rather believe the information here. What is the difference between a Car Battery and a Leisure Battery (http://www.advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/press49differencebetweencarbatteryandleisurebatter y.html)

I think Firefox is referring to the fact that very few, if any, leisure batteries are true deep cycle batteries and most are lightly modified starter batteries. My post earlier was a way of jumping the two batteries with out the risk of any possible damage however slight.

Myself, if I was stuck in middle of nowhere I'd have no hesitation in jumping the starter battery from the leisure ones - it's only on repeated use that damage may occur.

Tony Lee
09-02-2013, 21:02
Problem is often one of terminology. "Leisure battery" for instance, isn't really a widely used term whereas "Deep cycle battery" is. Ask anyone outside of the UK for a leisure battery and you might get a blank look. It might be similar to a so-called "Hybrid Battery" but then again it may not. It could well be a starting battery dressed up to be something special.

Another BS designation is "hybrid battery" where the real meaning is "not particularly ideal for either starting or deep cycle application but hopefully you will be fooled into buying it anyway" Supposedly meant for boaties where they might have only one set of batteries, but anything large will have specialised batteries for each duty anyway.

Many true deep cycle batteries from reputable manufacturers will have a CCA rating as well as the normal capacity rating Ah at 20 hour rate so will be OK for limited starting use.

BTW another big con perpetrated by some of the lowlife battery manufacturers - or more likely, low-life rebadgers - is to give an Amp hour rating which looks quite good until you notice that it is at the 100 hour rate instead of the more normal 20 hour rate. The difference will be up to 20% more optimistic than it should be


I think I would rather believe the information here. What is the difference between a Car Battery and a Leisure Battery
Hmmmm! I think Firefox is a bit like me - slightly sceptical of stuff on the internet unless it can be backed up from more than one independent source

herbenny
30-03-2013, 07:51
The van battery is flat as a pancake and we knew we would need to get one this year as last year we had a couple of mornings where we needed a jump start from some very kind people errmmm thanking you miss kimbo :wave:. Looking from receipts etc that came with the van by all accounts the last one was put in as long as 2008 :scared: so I would say its well over due. Does anyone know of any good deals anywhere at the moment ...I want something decent and that wont need replacing for a while.

:anyone:

yorkieowl
30-03-2013, 10:18
Just replaced ours, we were advised to get a Bosch (S4013) 82 with a four year guarantee.
Sue.

Cliffy
30-03-2013, 20:16
Just replaced ours, we were advised to get a Bosch (S4013) 82 with a four year guarantee.
Sue.
Bummer just replaced mine, exact same battery 90, but they fitted it and tested the leisure batteries so not to bad.

ivecotrucker
30-03-2013, 21:13
Fine to jump start the engine from an open or sealed low/no maintenance wet lead acid battery but you would damage a Gel or AGM type battery - they are not made for heavy, rapid discharge such as engine starting.

tonyclover
31-03-2013, 23:01
Thank you for that. I did think about doing it but thought it might b*gg*r up the leisure battery.
run a pair of cables from the engine battery through a relay to the other one and charge it on the move,it will also act as a stater battery if the engine battery gets low.
if you park up for a long stay,run up the engine for halve an hour to boost both batteries
and if you tap the relay third outlet you can run the twelve volt fridge on the move,but put a switch in the line so you do not get a double feed


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