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wildman
30-07-2013, 21:52
AS Watersports trip (http://www.kayakfishinguk.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=2221#p11642)http://www.kayakfishinguk.net/Forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.kayakfishinguk.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=11642#p11642)by wildman (http://www.kayakfishinguk.net/Forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7464) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:39 pm
Sue and I set off for Exeter in the motorhome on saturday evening and parked outside of the warehouse, afew hundred yards from the shop.
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The 3 hour kayak course started on sunday morning. We were greeted by Liam their BCA instructor.
After a brief description of what lay ahead he got us all kitted out (eight of us) in wetsuits, cag and PDF. Those that had them wore their own.
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A brief introduction foorom each of us and he allocated the yaks to be used. I was lucky enough to be given a brand new, never been wet Prowler Ultra 4.1 and Sue a Perception Triumph which is almost identical to the one she has just got (Perception Freedom).
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Off we went for a quiet paddle down the canal and along the river Exe
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After accessing all of our imeadiate faults Liam offered advice on correcting them, he then told us all to sit side saddle and try to gauge the tipping point both left and right. now having done this several times in the Scrambler 11 in shallow water I was rather overconfident and managed to tip it. The water was really warm, I wish I had stayed there. As we had not yet got to the self rescue bit Liam performed an assisted rescue. By the time I eventually got back on I realised a number of things but more of those at the end.
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we went on to practice turning in our own length.
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Using balance to steer and power turns before returning to yak righting and self rescue. all of the eight people there were in their late 50's/early sixties and at least three of us very overweight.
He paired us off, I was then that I realised I did not have the strength to haul myself aboard again let alone help Sue on board. So Liam took my place and Sue managed to get back on as did everyone else, though no one managed it unassisted. We then went for a paddle along the river EXe and back to the canal, I was surprised to find my arms and shoulders coped with paddling that long. Everyone had a great time and all learned something new, even if it was only the recommendation to fill the yak with extra bouyancy if using it at sea. Old pop bottle are free and work well fitting in all of the small places. It is the best value for £35 I have seen for a very long time. The shop is excellent though you could spend a small fortune there.
Conclusions, I am NOT confident in or on the water, I don't have a cats chance in hell of rescuing myself if more than 100 yards or so from land. I need to lose another two stone and build some upper body strength. So for the time being I'll be fishing from the shore and paddling in the estuary until my balance and strength problems are sorted. I am so disappointed but there have been a few wake up calls of late and I'm not getting any younger, (66 year old git)
Leaving Exeter a tremendous migraine started that continued until this morning, plus my stomach decided I had wrenched it about too much, once I got home the dizzy spells started, (they are caused by a restriction in my spine, uncomfortable, almost like being drunk I guess).
Had I not just bought two yaks, GPS, Radio Fishfinder etc I would probably have given up. But I'll persevere for now.

Randonneur
31-07-2013, 20:55
Hi Wildman,

I've just bought an Ocean Kayak Prowler 13 myself. Got it for silly money off Ebay with all the kit and had to collect it from Aberaeron in wales, so a good days drive there and back from Redditch.

I,m a little ( not much! ) younger than you and also very overweight, and I'm hoping to be able to use it for day paddling and try to lose a bit of weight.

Last week I took it to Stratford-on-Avon and launched right in front of the Royal Shakespeare Company theatre and had a wonderful two and a half hours paddling up the river to the top of the Avon navigation and back.

But the next day, oh boy did my body feel it!! I was so stiff I could hardly move! Serves me right for overdoing it I suppose.

I'm taking it to Scotland with me next week so hopefully I'll be able to try paddling on a few lochs.

Hope to be posting photos when we return.

philm
31-07-2013, 21:26
I use a calypso brill fun in the surf that, s all mine gets usef for.

rach82
31-07-2013, 21:31
Would love to get into watersports but not really confident enough!

We are both swimmers but not strong swimmers so are really a bit daunted!

Looks fab - an aim I think for this year! :)

Smaug
31-07-2013, 21:38
Oy! I'm supposed to be the "Uncle Albert lookalike"! :mad1:

I used to run a canoe club for Liverpool Poly about 30-odd years ago, we ran baths training sessions to get people rolling for self rescue. On the instructor courses, the first thing they did was to tell us all to bale out (this was in the Swellies maelstrom on the Menai Straits) and then carry out self rescue in pairs from in the water. The basic point is, sea canoeists & white water canoeists are always advised to go out in pairs as rescue is much easier with 2 people.

It IS possible solo, even with a traditional kayak, but quite hard to do. Those sit-on ones should be simple, simply turn it the right way up & the water can be tipped off it. Climb on from the stern until able to sit up in the middle with a leg each side & then lift you legs into the boat & paddle off - err assuming you remembered the golden rule to NEVER let go of paddle or boat!

I can still roll a kayak & the grandkids think it's hysterical when I do.

baloothebear
01-08-2013, 06:04
I used to run a canoe club for Liverpool Poly about 30-odd years ago, we ran baths training sessions to get people rolling for self rescue.

I can still roll a kayak & the grandkids think it's hysterical when I do.

Still no substitute for proper training - all those years ago and you can remember it and, more importantly, still do it

Dezi
01-08-2013, 07:10
A few years ago when staying with family in the good ol US of A. We hired a canoe from “canoe escape.”

Basically a van takes you several miles up river & you paddle back, unescorted” to a collection point several miles down stream.

Just before he left us the driver gave the usual pep talk -:
Do not get out & wander around
Look out for snakes
Etc etc.

Then he said “Don’t worry about the alligators as soon as they see you they will disappear under the water, they do not bother canoeist”.

Have you got that in writing? I asked.

Pardon me sir, sez he.

The alligators,sez I, have you given them the same pep talk so that they know what to do.

He asked me if I was English, got in the van then just drove off.

Canoe Escape: Canoeing the Hillsborough River near Tampa, Florida (http://www.canoeescape.com/)

Dezi

Smaug
01-08-2013, 09:25
Still no substitute for proper training - all those years ago and you can remember it and, more importantly, still do it

It's a bit like riding a bike, survival kicks in. I do tend to get stiff these days & bruise my back on the rear of the cockpit as I lay flat back to reduce the leverage for rolling, but I try to do it once a year at least.

Leaders all did Senior Instructor training with BCU sponsored by the club. We then ran the training sessions.

Problem is that not all youngsters are prepared to accept what the instructor tells them - until they discover the issues for themselves!!

wildman
01-08-2013, 10:37
Oy! I'm supposed to be the "Uncle Albert lookalike"! :mad1:

I used to run a canoe club for Liverpool Poly about 30-odd years ago, we ran baths training sessions to get people rolling for self rescue. On the instructor courses, the first thing they did was to tell us all to bale out (this was in the Swellies maelstrom on the Menai Straits) and then carry out self rescue in pairs from in the water. The basic point is, sea canoeists & white water canoeists are always advised to go out in pairs as rescue is much easier with 2 people.

It IS possible solo, even with a traditional kayak, but quite hard to do. Those sit-on ones should be simple, simply turn it the right way up & the water can be tipped off it. Climb on from the stern until able to sit up in the middle with a leg each side & then lift you legs into the boat & paddle off - err assuming you remembered the golden rule to NEVER let go of paddle or boat!

I can still roll a kayak & the grandkids think it's hysterical when I do.
Things are different with a sit on top, to start with paddle and self are generally tethered to the canoe especially when paddling alone or at sea, secondly they are stable enough to self rescue over the side rather than the stern, (provided you are fit enough (unlike me) to drag your dead weight over the side smartish.
And by the way I can't be Uncle Albert because I have loads of shoulder length hair, its just tied back so you cannot see it, hee hee.


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