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rottiontour
19-10-2013, 11:06
First days in October .....it´s getting cold in East Frisia and we MUST have a little bit more sun. So we "load" the MH and go for Greece. We ...that means my wife and me plus Lara, the black Rottweiler lady.
During our travels through Europa we learnt that it is sometimes not too easy to be accompanied by a large dog, never the reason was the dog´s behaviour, but more because of the different laws or the dog´s existence itself....especially in some countries of Germany. And so we tried to arrange a stressless tour at overnight stays without problems for owner and dog....and with a little freedom for both.
By the way that´s the reason, why we choose Greece as destination. We worked and lived two years in Greece and those time we had a dog and later on we travelled many times through Greece with the dog and never repeat never we had any problems with the greek people concerning the dog. And we do not visit overcrowded restaurants, markets or tourist points with the dog. And, where we go, we ask if there will be a problem with a dog. But up to now we never got a refusing answer.

Here our "stressfree" overnight places

Germany:
Guntersblum, Stellplatz at the sportsplace,
GPS 49° 47´22´´ N, 8°20´38´´ E.
5 Euro per night, full supply,
beautiful vine region in the Rhine valley, great dog walking through the vine area.

Westhofen, Parkplatz Nickelgarten,
GPS 49°42´20´´N-8°14´48´´E.
Costfree, electricity 1 Euro for 8 hrs, next facilitiy for toilette and water at the roundabout in town.
Nice dog walking in the hills.

Hurlach, north of Landsberg, parking at Motel (Rasthaus)
GPS 48°7´23´´N—10°50´28´´ E.
No supply, costfree if you drink a beer in the Rasthaus.
Fantastic dog walking at the river Lech area.

Austria:
Golling, Stellplatz Aqua Salza Therme
N 47° 35´ 45´´ -- E 13° 10´ 24 ´´
12,90 Euro plus electricity and water.
Great park area in vicinity for dog walking

Rosegg, Gasthof Rosseggerhof , open Apr-Oct
GPS N 46° 35´ 23" -- E 14° 1´ 13"
12,40 Euro including supply.
Great walking area through the fields and at the river Drau.
Here we got a health certificate, which is needed for Macedonia. 25 Euros at Tierklinik Dr. Forisch, in Villach, Piccostr. 8. Neue Seite 2 (http://members.aon.at/dr.forisch/), GPS N 46.62047°—E 13.85878°

Croatia:
Spacva , highway parking,
GPS N 45° 02´ 42.5´´ -- E 18° 59´ 44.0" Motel Spacva, Camping and Parking Place
costfree at parking area, suitable only for quick transit.

Serbia:
Predejane, Motel Predejane
GPS N 42° 50´ 01.0"--E 22° 07´57.3"
12 Euros including elec and shower, no supply, supermarket in vicinity, suitable for transit.

Macedonia:
Stobi, parking at archaeological site, follow brown exit sign
GPS N 41.55041°—E021.97462°....sorry, another format
costfree, next by highway, no supply, very friendly english speaking ladies at the gate, guarded during the night, come in before 18:00 so the guard will be adviced to keep the parking area open for you, nice area, ok for dog.

Greece:
Variko, about 10 km south Katerini, camping Stani, open all year
No GPS but easy to find.....exit Variko, follow camping signs for camping Stani.
10 Euros all including, beach next by, great dog walking area.
Some Km away the great archaeological site Dion, worth to see.

Thermopyles, parking at Leonidas monument
GPS N 38.79533°--E 22.53653°
costfree, large area, very interesting place, good for dog

Now we are on Peloponnes presently in ancient Corinth at "Camper Stop", a Stellplatz for 10 Euros all inc.
GPS N 37°54´42"--E 22°52´40"

Lovely weather, 24 C in shadow, very friendly people, and as i said absolutely no problems with the dog....we are forgetting the northern countries.

May be the one or other point is suitable for you.

Xalara.....hang loose,

Bernd

shawbags
19-10-2013, 14:50
First days in October .....it´s getting cold in East Frisia and we MUST have a little bit more sun. So we "load" the MH and go for Greece. We ...that means my wife and me plus Lara, the black Rottweiler lady.
During our travels through Europa we learnt that it is sometimes not too easy to be accompanied by a large dog, never the reason was the dog´s behaviour, but more because of the different laws or the dog´s existence itself....especially in some countries of Germany. And so we tried to arrange a stressless tour at overnight stays without problems for owner and dog....and with a little freedom for both.
By the way that´s the reason, why we choose Greece as destination. We worked and lived two years in Greece and those time we had a dog and later on we travelled many times through Greece with the dog and never repeat never we had any problems with the greek people concerning the dog. And we do not visit overcrowded restaurants, markets or tourist points with the dog. And, where we go, we ask if there will be a problem with a dog. But up to now we never got a refusing answer.

Here our "stressfree" overnight places

Germany:
Guntersblum, Stellplatz at the sportsplace,
GPS 49° 47´22´´ N, 8°20´38´´ E.
5 Euro per night, full supply,
beautiful vine region in the Rhine valley, great dog walking through the vine area.

Westhofen, Parkplatz Nickelgarten,
GPS 49°42´20´´N-8°14´48´´E.
Costfree, electricity 1 Euro for 8 hrs, next facilitiy for toilette and water at the roundabout in town.
Nice dog walking in the hills.

Hurlach, north of Landsberg, parking at Motel (Rasthaus)
GPS 48°7´23´´N—10°50´28´´ E.
No supply, costfree if you drink a beer in the Rasthaus.
Fantastic dog walking at the river Lech area.

Austria:
Golling, Stellplatz Aqua Salza Therme
N 47° 35´ 45´´ -- E 13° 10´ 24 ´´
12,90 Euro plus electricity and water.
Great park area in vicinity for dog walking

Rosegg, Gasthof Rosseggerhof , open Apr-Oct
GPS N 46° 35´ 23" -- E 14° 1´ 13"
12,40 Euro including supply.
Great walking area through the fields and at the river Drau.
Here we got a health certificate, which is needed for Macedonia. 25 Euros at Tierklinik Dr. Forisch, in Villach, Piccostr. 8. Neue Seite 2 (http://members.aon.at/dr.forisch/), GPS N 46.62047°—E 13.85878°

Croatia:
Spacva , highway parking,
GPS N 45° 02´ 42.5´´ -- E 18° 59´ 44.0" Motel Spacva, Camping and Parking Place
costfree at parking area, suitable only for quick transit.

Serbia:
Predejane, Motel Predejane
GPS N 42° 50´ 01.0"--E 22° 07´57.3"
12 Euros including elec and shower, no supply, supermarket in vicinity, suitable for transit.

Macedonia:
Stobi, parking at archaeological site, follow brown exit sign
GPS N 41.55041°—E021.97462°....sorry, another format
costfree, next by highway, no supply, very friendly english speaking ladies at the gate, guarded during the night, come in before 18:00 so the guard will be adviced to keep the parking area open for you, nice area, ok for dog.

Greece:
Variko, about 10 km south Katerini, camping Stani, open all year
No GPS but easy to find.....exit Variko, follow camping signs for camping Stani.
10 Euros all including, beach next by, great dog walking area.
Some Km away the great archaeological site Dion, worth to see.

Thermopyles, parking at Leonidas monument
GPS N 38.79533°--E 22.53653°
costfree, large area, very interesting place, good for dog

Now we are on Peloponnes presently in ancient Corinth at "Camper Stop", a Stellplatz for 10 Euros all inc.
GPS N 37°54´42"--E 22°52´40"

Lovely weather, 24 C in shadow, very friendly people, and as i said absolutely no problems with the dog....we are forgetting the northern countries.

May be the one or other point is suitable for you.

Xalara.....hang loose,

Bernd

Looks like he'd lick everyone to death :tongue: lol, my cousin had two and swears by them , have fun , Shawbags (Chris).

jennyp19
19-10-2013, 14:55
A very useful post RT - especially for dog owners.

rottiontour
22-12-2013, 13:16
Rottie is back home.

Yes, we are back home, no wintering. Although we were well "winter-equipped", we broke off. The reasons were simple.....Rottie got homesick and we a little bit too (x-mas time approaching) and.... we had no rubber boots, the camp site girl strongly recommended this :-)
And after nearly 2 months in Greece the days got shorter and the first rain showers came up. No way to sit in rain, could do at home as well. Ok, the winter in Greece is not always rainy and muddy , we learnt this during our years down there, the wintertime is much more comfortable and shorter in Greece and definitely there is more sun than in East Frisia. But periods in Jan till Mar could be wet , windy and uncomfortable too. And ....another important fact....we had experienced pure sun for more than 5 months this year so we were starving for snow..... unbelievable, isn´t it.
Thus we did Rottie a big favour and "returned to base".

And here some experiences travelling with a large dog.

Travelling via landline is easy having the necessary papers and giving enough breaks to the dog, not a single problem at the borders. However, from Austria to Greece the distance is about 1300 km, we needed two overnight stays.

The people of all countries on our way down south (Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia) were much more relaxed facing a Rottweiler than the people of my home country. Not a single problem with people, nothing. Even we were asked to take a picture of the dog and often people approached to talk about dogs, so we had many interesting chats with friendly people....easy going.

Campsites....on the campsites no problems at all, everything was smooth and easy....hmmh, perhaps because not too many guys around speaking east frisian or a southern version of it ?? The more to the south the more relaxed the people are.

Heat,...October and November still were too warm for a northerly dog. Next time we will start at the end of Feb to hit March till May.

Wilding....absolutely great outside the main season, we never had a problem, neither within a town nor outside in the fields or at the beaches, zero!! Loads of lonely beaches.

Stray dogs.....no problem at all, generally shy and respectful. Rottie made good friends.

Dog food....no problem, Lidl helps.

POISON!!!.....THE MAJOR PROBLEM. We learnt during our time in Greece that in autumn there had been organized actions to poison cats and dogs, all those actions (10 years ago) had been announced to the local community officially by flyers.
On the campsites in Gythio and Finikounda we were warned by the owners to pay attention. They said that the locals illegally put down poison, it is forbidden, however... ...So i avoided populated areas with the dog and let her run only on lonely beaches or areas. And before travelling we learned the symptomes of being poisened and how to react immediately.

Most dogfriendly campsite (for us).....Gythion Bay, large and empty.
Best private Aire....Camperstop at Ancient Corinth.
And many "wild places", brilliant and lonely, see attachments.

In case your heading will be inbound Greece, hope that helps a little bit.

Merry x-mas and happy new year.

Bernd......in thunderstorm now

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toasty
22-12-2013, 13:36
Thanks a lot for useful post, live the dream!
Happy Christmas
:cheers:


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