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Huxley
21-12-2013, 19:07
Apologies if this topic has been covered elsewhere. In our Moho we have LED strip lights above all the cupboards and LED spotlights around about. There are also five ceiling lights each of which has 9w PL bulb. It it worth changing bulbs to LED? I appreciate I will need to remove the guts of the light fitting to install the led fittings. Is the power saving worth while - we are operating without EHU most of the time. If it is worth while what wattage LED bulbs will I need to get the same light output? If it makes any difference we have a solar panel on the roof (no idea what rating).

Regards Martin.

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Alf
21-12-2013, 19:24
There is a vast saving on battery power by going to LED from halogen lighting I would leave well alone wwith your PL lamp as there is no direct replacement that I know of and there will be little saving going to the equivalent LED bulbs from the 9w lamp
You could try ATEN lighting if there is LED bulb to fit they will know and if you ask nice send a LED bulb for you to try before you buy

Alf




Apologies if this topic has been covered elsewhere. In our Moho we have LED strip lights above all the cupboards and LED spotlights around about. There are also five ceiling lights each of which has 9w PL bulb. It it worth changing bulbs to LED? I appreciate I will need to remove the guts of the light fitting to install the led fittings. Is the power saving worth while - we are operating without EHU most of the time. If it is worth while what wattage LED bulbs will I need to get the same light output? If it makes any difference we have a solar panel on the roof (no idea what rating).

Regards Martin.

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad9/Dawn_coutts/th_27eef5e9ef25e4489037dddef1f5f621_zps9801907b.jp g (http://s916.photobucket.com/albums/ad9/Dawn_coutts/?action=view&current=27eef5e9ef25e4489037dddef1f5f621_zps980190 7b.jpg)

Brian the snail
21-12-2013, 20:59
Hi Martin,

I've just done that, bought a PL9 Lumo Coronet light fitting and converted it to take 2 G4 18SMD 5050 Led bulbs at total 5 watts to use as main light in our lounge instead of spotlights as fitted. My impression is the Led is brighter than the PL9 for less power but that may be wishful thinking as I have spent the time and cash doing it, but it is certainly as bright.
I stripped the PL9 contol board out and used 3amp connector strip to mount the bulb and connect the cables.
Used these leds G4 18SMD 5050 12v (10-30v) DC 2.5W Side Pin Warm White LED Light Bulb - 0829 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121004393209?var=420099830855&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649).

I think that 55ish percent power saving is worth while particularly at this time of year.

I can take and post a pic if you wish.

Clive

Shop Admin
21-12-2013, 21:06
Don't forget to check out the Wild Camping Shop (http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/shop)

We have some very good quality LED bulbs at a reasonable price.

Generally you will find LED's use 10th of the power of the bulb it is replacing. So, 21w = 2.1w. Times this over several bulbs and you will soon realise the power saving.

Alf
21-12-2013, 23:13
This only applies to replacing Halogen lamps not fluorescent or low wattage bulbs

Alf


Don't forget to check out the Wild Camping Shop (http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/shop)

We have some very good quality LED bulbs at a reasonable price.

Generally you will find LED's use 10th of the power of the bulb it is replacing. So, 21w = 2.1w. Times this over several bulbs and you will soon realise the power saving.

Sharon the Cat
22-12-2013, 06:17
Don't forget to check out the Wild Camping Shop (http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/shop)

We have some very good quality LED bulbs at a reasonable price.

They are also very patient with confused and disorganised cats who order the wrong bulbs.

Blodwyn Pig
22-12-2013, 08:31
Don't forget to check out the Wild Camping Shop (http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/shop)

We have some very good quality LED bulbs at a reasonable price.

Generally you will find LED's use 10th of the power of the bulb it is replacing. So, 21w = 2.1w. Times this over several bulbs and you will soon realise the power saving.

Are your 12v Bayonet single or double spot on the base and what is the diameter please. Looking to replace the bulbs in our Hurricane but RV dealer prices start around 7.50 a bulb :sad:

DTDog
22-12-2013, 08:32
This only applies to replacing Halogen lamps not fluorescent or low wattage bulbs

Alf

G4's aren't halogen, neither are bayonets or festoon bulbs, all these LED replacements use around a tenth of the power as stated by 'shop admin'.

You are correct in saying that fluorescent bulb replacements are not generally worth changing as they don't use that much power anyway.

Shop Admin
22-12-2013, 08:46
Are your 12v Bayonet single or double spot on the base and what is the diameter please. Looking to replace the bulbs in our Hurricane but RV dealer prices start around 7.50 a bulb :sad:

They are SINGLE spot on the base and measure 15mm in diameter (please also note that LED's are polarity directional. Positive is at the base spot and negative is around the body).

They will replace both the 21w bayonet and the 5w bayonet and use 2.1w of power. Or 0.18amp as against 1.8amp (for the 21w).

Alf
22-12-2013, 09:04
As far as I am aware all G4 bulbs are halogen lamps

Alf




G4's aren't halogen, neither are bayonets or festoon bulbs, all these LED replacements use around a tenth of the power as stated by 'shop admin'.

You are correct in saying that fluorescent bulb replacements are not generally worth changing as they don't use that much power anyway.

DTDog
22-12-2013, 09:14
As far as I am aware all G4 bulbs are halogen lamps

Alf

My apologise, G4 are halogen, but the other's aren't.

wints
22-12-2013, 11:17
Look on ebay, should be about 1 each, usually from China, and quickly delivered.
I've replaced all my originals, on both my Hymer, and on my Euramobil.
No failures over 4 years.

regards
Allen

Brian the snail
22-12-2013, 13:47
Hi Martin,

Photos of my converted fitting.

Clive

iveco4x4
23-12-2013, 21:12
They are SINGLE spot on the base and measure 15mm in diameter (please also note that LED's are polarity directional. Positive is at the base spot and negative is around the body).

They will replace both the 21w bayonet and the 5w bayonet and use 2.1w of power. Or 0.18amp as against 1.8amp (for the 21w).

Not on 3 of my fittings, they had incandescent bulbs so i bought the correct led ones and they would not work, so i tried a different manufacturers , still no luck

Then I had that brainwave, if 21 years ago when they bult the truck they wired them incorrectly then it wouldn't have mattered, but with LED it does. So next oportunity down to the camper with a set of wirecutters and rewired the fittings. Now they all work on led and I have spare bulbs too ! Result !

So like admin says and i experienced, check the polarity of fittings , your van may have been built by a Muppet

Rich
:have fun:

Siimplyloco
23-12-2013, 21:17
I had the same initial disappointment when I replaced the multiple tailgate bulbs on the Sorento with LED's. Put them in the right way round and Presto!
John


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