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jann
02-08-2004, 18:40
From Lymington port follow road to Beaulieu.Forestry commission car park on left[Bull Hill]quiet for overnight.several other places in area

kjoneses
03-06-2006, 20:13
Signs state "No over-night parking" on forestry commision car parks. Don't know if these are policed. Plenty of official sites but these are un-staffed overnight (17.00 - 09.00).
Ken.

sagart
27-09-2006, 10:28
Signs now getting more precise...the term "Wild camping" now appears on the banned list...how different England is to Scotland in this, my son, who works for Forest Enterprise has just been encouraged to arrange wider access and better turning areas for vans on some of their sites...still, managed to find a quiet area in the New Forest on 25/09

Aaron_TransitVan
03-11-2006, 08:42
Only ever stayed @ the new forest 'wild' before, and the locals and authorities dont like it!
We got away with it thru the night, and had a brilliant time but as soon as the walkers came the police did too!

Asked us to move on straight away, took details and were quite abrupt... havent been since:(

sagart
04-11-2006, 07:39
Only ever stayed @ the new forest 'wild' before, and the locals and authorities dont like it!
We got away with it thru the night, and had a brilliant time but as soon as the walkers came the police did too!

Asked us to move on straight away, took details and were quite abrupt... havent been since:(

Crazy! went through last week on a tour south. Forestry sites closed for winter, official sites closed for winter, commercial sites closed for winter..so if you can't camp "wild" even, where do you spend money to help businesses open over the winter? Answer, not in the New Forest

Aaron_TransitVan
06-11-2006, 08:36
Definately not.......id imagine u would get away with it if u were lucky, theres sum pretty secluded spot. We stayed at a place called 'Wyverley plain'.......quite a buzy place, the car park was full when i fell out of the van

Motorhomer
13-11-2006, 22:40
We live on the edge of the new Forest and officially there is no camping overnight allowed anywhere except official camp sites. There used to be two forestry sites open all winter not sure if they are still. The forrest does get very boggy in winter anyway & would be very unsuitable for camping.


Motorhomer

Aaron_TransitVan
15-11-2006, 14:25
Think i mite venture of down the new forest soon now winters here.... hoping it might be a bit quieter on the ranger/ police front!

I know sum good places that are totally hidden from the road, and i might even go a far as putting a camo over the top of my van:D

ill let u know

DaveC
13-07-2007, 18:13
From Lymington port follow road to Beaulieu.Forestry commission car park on left[Bull Hill]quiet for overnight.several other places in area

We have just come back after a week in the new forest. Very first night at Jansmour, a ticket put on screen, Byelaw Infringement Notice no. 7 111, if we stay there again we would be prosecuted! Looked on the web but can't find out what the fine would be. We ended up staying at Calshot (will leave detatails on site if not already there) for couple nights, no hassle and a stonethrow from forest. Also stayed at lorry park near Ringwood. (Not quite the same as the Forest!) After talking to other wild campers while there, many had same problem. Davec

sagart
14-07-2007, 18:09
We have just come back after a week in the new forest. Very first night at Jansmour, a ticket put on screen, Byelaw Infringement Notice no. 7 111, if we stay there again we would be prosecuted! Looked on the web but can't find out what the fine would be. We ended up staying at Calshot (will leave detatails on site if not already there) for couple nights, no hassle and a stonethrow from forest. Also stayed at lorry park near Ringwood. (Not quite the same as the Forest!) After talking to other wild campers while there, many had same problem. Davec
Verderers Bye Law 7.1.1 says:
"7.1.1 the development will further the primary objective (above); for example, trenching to put existing overhead cables underground, or a reduction in traffic speed on unfenced roads, including road improvements which are otherwise acceptable incorporating noise and visual screening"
can't trace any other under the number you quote. Who issued the ticket? Does it identify its source?

sagart
14-07-2007, 18:34
Verderers Bye Law 7.1.1 says:
"7.1.1 the development will further the primary objective (above); for example, trenching to put existing overhead cables underground, or a reduction in traffic speed on unfenced roads, including road improvements which are otherwise acceptable incorporating noise and visual screening"
can't trace any other under the number you quote. Who issued the ticket? Does it identify its source?

Should have waited a few minutes! My second son, who works for Forest Enterprise,has just turned up (lives just up the road).
Answer, Forestry Commission ByeLaws No. 648 of 1982
"No person shall, on the land of the Commissioners, park or leave unattended a motor vehicle between the hours of sunset and sunrise except by the side of the highway for a stop of reasonable duration for refreshment or other reasonable cause"
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/fcbyelaws1982.pdf/

Section 2 defines the areas covered......but Martin is unaware of what the penalty for infringement could be, it would depend on a local magistrate

DaveC
14-07-2007, 21:18
The byelaw infringement warning notice we recieved says Byelaw No 7 111. It says it is "a breach of New Forest Bylaw." Very official looking document, what more can I say!

Also says, "no further action will be taken on this occasion provided that this offence against the byelaws does not continue and is not repeated. I hereby give you the warning however that any further offence against the byelaws will render you liable to prosecution."

Also states, "a copy of this notice has been sent to the Deputy Surveyor of the New Forest."

Next is van info, date and signiture followed by reference no N3.

Just passing on info. Interested to see what the next stage would be!

pappajohn
14-07-2007, 21:19
We have just come back after a week in the new forest. Very first night at Jansmour, a ticket put on screen, Byelaw Infringement Notice no. 7 111, if we stay there again we would be prosecuted! Looked on the web but can't find out what the fine would be. We ended up staying at Calshot (will leave detatails on site if not already there) for couple nights, no hassle and a stonethrow from forest. Also stayed at lorry park near Ringwood. (Not quite the same as the Forest!) After talking to other wild campers while there, many had same problem. Davec

Hi,
i found byelaw 7 (iii) which states as below:-

and parking a motor vehicle between sunset and sunrise
except by the side of a highway for a reasonable period and for reasonable cause (byelaw 7(iii)).

i also found byelaw application 5 (x)

(x) set up or place any caravan, tent, booth, stall or erection of any
kind, including equestrian equipment;

read caravan as motorhome as well.

it looks like you can only drive at 20mph as well :eek:

it took a while but look what i found, THE FINE

Section 46(5) of the Forestry Act 1967 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1967 (c.80))
provides that anyone guilty of an offence against the byelaws is liable on summary conviction to a
fine not exceeding 20 and to a further fine not exceeding 50p for each day upon which the offence
continues.

sound very reasonable to me if you're staying for a week. only around 3 a day. :D :D :D :D :D :rolleyes:

john.

sagart
14-07-2007, 21:29
The byelaw infringement warning notice we recieved says Byelaw No 7 111. It says it is "a breach of New Forest Bylaw." Very official looking document, what more can I say!

Also says, "no further action will be taken on this occasion provided that this offence against the byelaws does not continue and is not repeated. I hereby give you the warning however that any further offence against the byelaws will render you liable to prosecution."

Also states, "a copy of this notice has been sent to the Deputy Surveyor of the New Forest."

Next is van info, date and signiture followed by reference no N3.

Just passing on info. Interested to see what the next stage would be!
"Reasonable cause"? ..."Officer, I am exhausted with driving and, for reasons of public safety, need to sleep"

DaveC
14-07-2007, 21:32
Thanks all for taking the trouble to find info about this byelaw. Guess the bottom line is, stay on New Forest until you are unlucky enough to get a warning, then, like myself, stay no more!

P.S. Have posted places we stayed, mainly Calshot, on the Hampshire part of the website. Stayed on New Forest til 8pm, then went elsewhere.

*****Home is where you park it!*****

JED THE SPREAD
18-01-2010, 23:00
Hi,
i found byelaw 7 (iii) which states as below:-

and parking a motor vehicle between sunset and sunrise
except by the side of a highway for a reasonable period and for reasonable cause (byelaw 7(iii)).

i also found byelaw application 5 (x)

(x) set up or place any caravan, tent, booth, stall or erection of any
kind, including equestrian equipment;

read caravan as motorhome as well.

it looks like you can only drive at 20mph as well :eek:

it took a while but look what i found, THE FINE

Section 46(5) of the Forestry Act 1967 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1967 (c.80))
provides that anyone guilty of an offence against the byelaws is liable on summary conviction to a
fine not exceeding 20 and to a further fine not exceeding 50p for each day upon which the offence
continues.

sound very reasonable to me if you're staying for a week. only around 3 a day. :D :D :D :D :D :rolleyes:

john.

Hahaha.... I am going to print this off and pop it in the windscreen and camp down their for a week. :D

jed

ajs
19-01-2010, 00:27
Hahaha.... I am going to print this off and pop it in the windscreen and camp down their for a week. :D

jed

:eek:.. you cummin south young man :confused::confused::confused::confused:

regards:D
aj

coolasluck
19-01-2010, 10:16
Hi,
i found byelaw 7 (iii) which states as below:-

and parking a motor vehicle between sunset and sunrise
except by the side of a highway for a reasonable period and for reasonable cause (byelaw 7(iii)).

i also found byelaw application 5 (x)

(x) set up or place any caravan, tent, booth, stall or erection of any
kind, including equestrian equipment;

read caravan as motorhome as well.




it looks like you can only drive at 20mph as well :eek:

it took a while but look what i found, THE FINE

Section 46(5) of the Forestry Act 1967 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1967 (c.80))
provides that anyone guilty of an offence against the byelaws is liable on summary conviction to a
fine not exceeding 20 and to a further fine not exceeding 50p for each day upon which the offence
continues.

sound very reasonable to me if you're staying for a week. only around 3 a day. :D :D :D :D :D :rolleyes:

john.




Absolutly brilliant,well done for finding that lad!
I will be making a point to stay there now,if they dont like it,tough!!
I propose we all have a wildcamping meet there and **** em.
In any case it takes about 3 months to get an eviction order to evict gypos or it has down our neck of the woods.Maybe we will stay there for a couple of months to prove that we will not be pushed about,and then let Maingates whippets loose to bite small children and be a general nuisance,and then go quietly one night leaving not a trace behind us but leaving the place looking cean and tidy!;)l


Just goes to show with the very official looking document its just there to scare you,20 quid,i doubt it would even reach a magistrate,the only downside would be you would have to pay costs if it did so add maybe 50 60 quid to that,still worth it though!

smifee
19-01-2010, 17:07
Have you ever seen a traveller's encampment in the New Forest?

The only one I can remember was a 'hippy convoy' and it was broken up and vehicles impounded. Court cases went on for years.

The NFDC & Forestry Commission ( got some fancy new name but no one uses it ) act immediately and that's why the tinkers etc give the New Forest a wide berth. Anyway the walkers & gawkers leave enough rubbish so we don't need the tinkers.

Try the A31 outside Copythorne School. There's a tarmacced area for school parking. For some reason there's nobody there at night.:D So get there after they've gone home and be up & away before they arrive for a new day. School holidays you should be able to have a lie in. It does get commandeered by the Netley Marsh Steam Show towards the end of July though for several days.

ALLERDALECHEF
19-01-2010, 18:34
so if you can't camp "wild" even, where do you spend money to help businesses open over the winter?

Try The Keswick area . i havnt seen any ''no overnight parking'' on any laybys etc. I was suprised when touring scotland this winter how many signs prohibiting overnighting there were......even in the middle of nowhere .....it made me feel a bit unwelcome .
Unfortunatly the best wild camp near keswick has been lost due to the council closing the portinscale bridge access road due to flood damage.
i have lived in the area all my life and havnt heard any one ever complain about wild campers

channa
19-01-2010, 18:44
so if you can't camp "wild" even, where do you spend money to help businesses open over the winter?

Try The Keswick area . i havnt seen any ''no overnight parking'' on any laybys etc. I was suprised when touring scotland this winter how many signs prohibiting overnighting there were......even in the middle of nowhere .....it made me feel a bit unwelcome .
Unfortunatly the best wild camp near keswick has been lost due to the council closing the portinscale bridge access road due to flood damage.
i have lived in the area all my life and havnt heard any one ever complain about wild campers

FFS shush Man !!!...I know you have a business and all that, but the Lakes are ok just as they are !!!...Next thing you will have hoards of Wilders littering the countryside and dumping their dumps all over the place.:rolleyes:

Channa

biggirafe
19-01-2010, 19:08
I'm not going to defend the people who run the New Forest, But having grown up in Poole I know just how popular this area is, If you try to book onto any of their campsites for any of the kids holidays or bank holidays I would expect you might find that they are already fully booked for this year,

My point is that if they were to provide overnight parking spaces that could be used add hock they would be creating a big problem for themselves. I expect It would always be full and people driving down would be without a proper parking space.

The New Forest has large areas designated as SSI, I for one would not want hundreds of vans, Bikes and cars parked anywhere they liked and I believe in summer it would be hundreds, not just MH's but also kids in cars, bikers and walkers who all want to be able to wildcamp the forest. Those of you that have visited this area in mid summer and tried to get to any of the south coast beaches or perhaps sat in the traffic jams through the Forest will know just how busy this small area can get.

What the answer is I do not know, it is a great shame we can't wild camp there and yes it does mean that in winter when we could perhaps add to the local economy we can't easily visit.

Macey
25-05-2011, 01:29
So that's it then. After reading this thread the bottom line is no wild-camping in the New Forest?
I have a small Ford Escort Van stealth camper, is there literally nowhere i could park it for the night without attracting attention!?

I don't want to be moved on by police or issued warnings even if i can essentially get away with it. It's just bad vibes i could do without.

pod
13-06-2011, 19:40
follow the signs for west totton, you will go past copythorne village hall, there is a little road running alongside it, been using it for years, and only a ten minute drive into the heart of the forest.

Canalsman
18-06-2011, 15:23
follow the signs for west totton, you will go past copythorne village hall, there is a little road running alongside it, been using it for years, and only a ten minute drive into the heart of the forest.

Thanks for the suggestion - this spot is already in the POI database :)

Regards

Chris

m4tt
08-10-2012, 17:25
weve been doin overnighting in the new forest for years you've just got to pick them carefully there are so many some would say to many to police

Watoh
10-07-2014, 13:37
Interesting thread. I was hoping to pop down the the new forest next weekend with a another family. Its good to know how toothless & ambiguous this bylaw is.

I can also dream up a 'reasonable cause'. It could be an interesting conversation with a moody copper. I'd just set my incessant talking 4 year daughter on them... :p


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