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n brown
24-02-2016, 20:32
or was it suicide ? 38396

maingate
24-02-2016, 20:46
It would depend on the level of natural light in the room as I see a discrepancy.

George Dixon
999 Letsby Avenue
Wormwood Scrubs.

st3v3
24-02-2016, 20:54
Lamp not plugged in, but I can't think if it means anything. Certainly looks like suicide, but wouldn't be hard to have set-up I suppose...

st3v3
24-02-2016, 21:02
Is that the shell casing by the glasses? That would be the wrong side for suicide.

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:04
Murder!!! I doubt you'd light a ciggy just before shooting yourself.

Tezza33
24-02-2016, 21:08
Murder, the angle of the body is wrong for the direction of the shot (according to the blood splatter) and there is no way the cigarette would still be in her hand if she had pulled the trigger herself, the pen is on the left side of the notepad indicating she is left handed and yet the gun is in her right hand

n brown
24-02-2016, 21:12
Murder!!! I doubt you'd light a ciggy just before shooting yourself.
everybody wants a last fag before being shot,ask any firing squad !

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:15
everybody wants a last fag before being shot,ask any firing squad !

But surely you'd finish it,the one in her hand looks freshly lit.

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:18
Murder!! the chair is under the counter,if it went over with her on it,it would be away from the wall.

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:22
Murder!! if it's assumed she was on the chair facing the window,then the gun is in the wrong hand,but the ciggy is in the correct hand for the ashtray.

n brown
24-02-2016, 21:22
if it was me, and i still smoked, and i was planning to top myself, i'd do it mid drag-i'd die fuming

mark61
24-02-2016, 21:22
Murder.

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:25
Now that I've solved that,can you please send the money to backhanders@metropolice.co.uk

n brown
24-02-2016, 21:27
i don't know the answer, but i can read the clues, so what's your reasoning ?

Asterix
24-02-2016, 21:40
Now im starting to think she's comatose and that's red wine on the wall, she never got round to loading the gun,the bottle is in the bin but I don't know where the glass is....

mark61
24-02-2016, 21:53
Appears to be left handed, but gun in right hand.
Could be an accident though, turns out it wasn't a lighter. Where is the lighter?

Tezza33
24-02-2016, 21:54
Murder!! if it's assumed she was on the chair facing the window,then the gun is in the wrong hand,but the ciggy is in the correct hand for the ashtray.The cig, can of coke and pen all indicate she is left handed, so why is the gun in her right hand

runnach
24-02-2016, 22:08
The gun is actually a fag lighter, red on the wall, red wine, she is bladdered, fell off stool, bottle miraculously fell into bin, along with glass, which you cannot see.

campervanannie
24-02-2016, 22:34
I think it's murder and theft though why he/she would only nick one flip-flop leading me to believe it was a one legged murderer.

n brown
24-02-2016, 22:41
I think it's murder and theft though why he/she would only nick one flip-flop leading me to believe it was a one legged murderer.
you got it Annie ! it was that dastardly frog, Philippe Ferlop,and now he's hopped it !

maingate
24-02-2016, 22:42
Murder.

Get an APB out for a professor Plum, he is the chief suspect.

Tezza33
24-02-2016, 22:42
The gun is actually a fag lighter, red on the wall, red wine, she is bladdered, fell off stool, bottle miraculously fell into bin, along with glass, which you cannot see.That would point to anyone who goes to a wildcamping meet

campervanannie
25-02-2016, 04:13
you got it Annie ! it was that dastardly frog, Philippe Ferlop,and now he's hopped it !

I was thinking it could be Daisymini she has been awfully quiet if late in hiding maybe???

rockape
25-02-2016, 07:01
Neither, it's a normal Sunday morning in Hartcliffe.

trevskoda
25-02-2016, 08:59
No doubt i will get the blame.:scared:

maingate
25-02-2016, 09:05
No doubt i will get the blame.:scared:

Well I have never trusted you Trev.

Your eyes are too close together. :lol-061:

Wooie1958
25-02-2016, 09:38
No doubt i will get the blame.:scared:



You`ll be fine Trev, the kneecaps look ok.

Wooie1958
25-02-2016, 09:41
Murder, the gun is in the wrong hand for it to have been suicide given the evidence :idea:

Pauljenny
25-02-2016, 09:49
Murder, the gun is in the wrong hand for it to have been suicide given the evidence :idea:

If The charge was murder, any good lawyer could get the defendant off , pleading self defence . On the grounds that, siiting there, drunk, smoking and scruffy......She looked offensive .

I rest my case , M'lud

n brown
25-02-2016, 22:58
well, as an experienced,and, ahem, renowned detective , i must point out that as some have noticed, it's pretty bleedin' obvious this corpus delicti [them shorts !] is very left handed, writing and drinking with it, so using a gun with the wrong,[right] hand would be a no no .

why Trev did it, we may never know


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