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runnach
16-03-2019, 15:21
Watching French TV, 15K + yellow vests rioting and looting in Paris right now.

I guess Mr Macron is now out of flavour.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47596476

mark61
16-03-2019, 15:33
18th week, they never stopped, just not much on MSM. Macron pulling some very dirty tricks.
I'd only believe every other word from BBC :lol-049:

runnach
16-03-2019, 15:37
18th week, they never stopped, just not much on MSM. Macron pulling some very dirty tricks.
I'd only believe every other word from BBC :lol-049:

We have French TV channel here at home, which is showing live coverage. Beeb link if for illustration purposes, only, Mark.

Scrag
16-03-2019, 15:38
And how little it is reported in over here.
I admire them yellow vests letting the powers that be know that they aren’t happy. Vivre le France

Neckender
16-03-2019, 15:40
We should do the same against the tinpot politicians we’ve got in this country.

John.

runnach
16-03-2019, 15:43
While it is good to protest, the rioting and looting doesn't do their cause any good. However, like many protests taking place around the world, the radical element are usually the ones who kick off, the violence and needless destruction of other people's property and businesses.

mark61
16-03-2019, 16:24
While it is good to protest, the rioting and looting doesn't do their cause any good. However, like many protests taking place around the world, the radical element are usually the ones who kick off, the violence and needless destruction of other people's property and businesses.

A French friend asked me why I think the looters are hardly arrested, while protesting Gilets Juane are. Interesting question. Along with leaked video of undercover police kicking off violence, and there has also been evidence of the police firing Flash Ball at peoples heads. Add that to Macrons smear campaign and I'm suspicious of what I'm told.

I also have no doubt some of the protestors are there just to cause trouble too. One things for sure, it's a proper mess.

runnach
16-03-2019, 17:27
A French friend asked me why I think the looters are hardly arrested, while protesting Gilets Juane are. Interesting question. Along with leaked video of undercover police kicking off violence, and there has also been evidence of the police firing Flash Ball at peoples heads. Add that to Macrons smear campaign and I'm suspicious of what I'm told.

I also have no doubt some of the protestors are there just to cause trouble too. One things for sure, it's a proper mess.

French authorities probably learned these infiltration tactics from our police during 80's the miners strike.

channa
16-03-2019, 17:30
French authorities probably learned these infiltration tactics from by our police during 80's the miners strike.
My exact thoughts too

Channa

mark61
16-03-2019, 18:04
French authorities probably learned these infiltration tactics from our police during 80's the miners strike.

Could well be, but I reckon the French autorities must have learned a few tactics back in 68.

My fav slogan of the 68 unrest. " It is forbidden to forbid" :)

runnach
16-03-2019, 18:22
Could well be, but I reckon the French autorities must have learned a few tactics back in 68.

My fav slogan of the 68 unrest. " It is forbidden to forbid" :)

I was too, young to remember this, Mark. Any links what you are referring to, please?

Fazerloz
16-03-2019, 18:47
BBC = Government backed and controlled media.
Police = Government backed and controlled gang.
And if the going gets tough there is always the army and martial law.

channa
16-03-2019, 19:37
French authorities probably learned these infiltration tactics from our police during 80's the miners strike.

Rumours still abound the army dressed as Police, and the Miners attracted rent a mob. What is true is a lot of the Met were drafted into South Yorkshire and there heavy handed tactics did the miners no favours nor South Yorkshire police who were left to pick up the pieces, The distrust is still entrenched over 30 years on
Channa

Asterix
16-03-2019, 20:22
While it is good to protest, the rioting and looting doesn't do their cause any good. However, like many protests taking place around the world, the radical element are usually the ones who kick off, the violence and needless destruction of other people's property and businesses.

To be fair they are mainly targeting businesses patronised by the one percenters,they are fast becoming the enemy of the people as the capitalist system does what it does best, destitution of the majority to feed the greed of a tiny minority.
I can see in years to come,a massive backlash against our current economic enslavement,maybe the French are leading the way?

runnach
16-03-2019, 21:42
To be fair they are mainly targeting businesses patronised by the one percenters,they are fast becoming the enemy of the people as the capitalist system does what it does best, destitution of the majority to feed the greed of a tiny minority.
I can see in years to come,a massive backlash against our current economic enslavement,maybe the French are leading the way?

Yes, I noted high end eateries, clothes shops and, banks targeted today. Macron should be worried, but with his wealth, he is sorted for life, unlike many of the French citizens.

French history repeating itself??

Wully
17-03-2019, 02:16
Ya Terry I think your funky ya weee knob

runnach
17-03-2019, 08:00
Ya Terry I think your funky ya weee knob

Problem Wully??

runnach
17-03-2019, 08:07
BBC = Government backed and controlled media.
Police = Government backed and controlled gang.
And if the going gets tough there is always the army and martial law.

Viewing this mornings BBC 1 news since 07.30, not even a nano second mention on yesterday's events in Paris, I wonder why?

Rockburner
17-03-2019, 08:31
To be fair they are mainly targeting businesses patronised by the one percenters,they are fast becoming the enemy of the people as the capitalist system does what it does best, destitution of the majority to feed the greed of a tiny minority.
I can see in years to come,a massive backlash against our current economic enslavement,maybe the French are leading the way?

I do have to agree that the balance is very wrong at the moment..... But don't for one second utter the dread word "socialism"!

Asterix
17-03-2019, 08:53
I do have to agree that the balance is very wrong at the moment..... But don't for one second utter the dread word "socialism"!

I quite admire the anarchist system,it's just a pity that word conjures up the wrong image as a result of propaganda,the Catalans experimented with it before the Spanish revolution,and it played a big part in early civilization,but because it pretty much excludes government,they will do whatever it takes to oppose and denigrate such a system.
To be honest I don't really like tags,all systems have their good and bad points,I think it's more important just to do what's right.

Fazerloz
17-03-2019, 11:19
Viewing this mornings BBC 1 news since 07.30, not even a nano second mention on yesterday's events in Paris, I wonder why?

They wouldn't want to spread the word a little anarchy might just cause social change would they.

maingate
17-03-2019, 11:29
Viewing this mornings BBC 1 news since 07.30, not even a nano second mention on yesterday's events in Paris, I wonder why?

I was very surprised to see anything at all on the BBC News yesterday. They have ignored it, or been instructed to ignore it by HMG. Unless they think stories of Meghan Markle are much more relevant to us.

Asterix
17-03-2019, 11:45
They wouldn't want to spread the word a little anarchy might just cause social change would they.

Thank you for illustrating the point in my previous post,"anarchy" has been villified to the point that it now means chaos and disorder...as opposed to a genuine and orderly social system,the power of propoganda at work!

phillybarbour
17-03-2019, 12:37
Great cause but the vests are losing their way on how to protest

MaxusMicky
18-03-2019, 20:58
French authorities probably learned these infiltration tactics from our police during 80's the miners strike.

Agent provocateurs the authorities have been using those tactics forever discredit the protesters and kick off violence so the state can unleash their thugs in Robocop outfits Ruptly has a live feed every Saturday

mark61
19-03-2019, 07:26
Poor old macron had to cut his holiday short. Came back and sacks chief of Police for Paris, while demanding “that such scenes must not be repeated”
Explains why the man is in a hurry to get an EU army.
Don’t we normally drop bombs on countries that use gas against their citizens.

rugbyken
19-03-2019, 08:12
a very passionate frenchman when queried about the vests running out of steam said on au contraire they are now focusing on the high end establishments favoured by the elite & not inconveniencing their supporters , let them eat cake indeed

GWAYGWAY
19-03-2019, 21:22
Rumours still abound the army dressed as Police, and the Miners attracted rent a mob. What is true is a lot of the Met were drafted into South Yorkshire and there heavy handed tactics did the miners no favours nor South Yorkshire police who were left to pick up the pieces, The distrust is still entrenched over 30 years on
Channa

I can say it was, When an 'inspector' shouts to an 'NCO' 'corporal take 10 men to the other side and block it off' Then you know something was not quite right. Same with the Poll tax riot there were more police in London then they actually had, plenty of spare uniforms though in the stores.


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