Well, in the midst of all the confusion, seemingly contradictory votes and mayhem, the smoke is clearing and the future is actually beginning to look clearer than at any stage for a long time. We are now in for May's deal and an extension of Article 50 till June or (and this is my preferred option) May being defeated for a third time and an extension until 2021. Either way, I don't have to worry about driving home in April and I get at least two more winters in the sun of southern Spain. And the pound is stronger than it has been for a long time
Last edited by John H; 15-03-2019 at 07:19.
I've just received an email from our Car Insurance company. I'm sure that many of you have received similar communications. Ours days this :-
"Whilst uncertainty remains on whether the UK leaves the European Union without a Withdrawal Agreement (a 'no-deal Brexit') on 29th March, if they do, UK motor insurance customers driving in the European Economic Area, Andorra, Serbia, and Switzerland will need physical proof of motor insurance when they travel. This is called a Green Card.
We have now developed a smooth and seamless process for you to obtain a Green Card if you are planning on driving in the European Union on or after 29th March 2019.
We will not charge you for this Green Card and it can be obtained by following the steps below:
Login to your My account
Select ‘Request Green Card’ from the My account homepage
Follow the on-screen instructions
Please be aware that there is no digital version available, a physical Green Card is the only valid format.
Your request will be processed within 24 hours of receipt and sent to you in the post the next working day, first class. We recommend requesting your Green Card up to 4 weeks before you travel."
ASSUMING NO DEAL - if you're already abroad and will be driving in Europe for the 3 weeks after the 29th you won't have a Green Card ( and that's also assuming that someone can nip round to your house in the UK and pop it in the post to you - wherever you may be).
I've spent some time trying to answer my original question (thanks everyone who tried to help) and eventually got the following reply from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office :-
"Thank you for your reply of 18/02/2019.
As already mentioned, if you are a registered resident in Portugal, (WE ARE ) the limits of length of stay in Portugal do not apply to you. This means that you can stay in Portugal for as long as you want and leave and enter the territory as many times as you wish.
However, if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, you will not be able to move freely through Schengen space as you do now. The EU Commission has guaranteed that UK nationals will not need a visa if they do not stay longer than 90 days in any 180 day-period. This means that if you leave Portugal, you cannot stay in the Schengen area for more than 90 days without a visa. The 90 days are counted from the moment you cross the border of Portugal and you either re-enter Portugal or leave Schengen.
For example, if you leave Portugal on 31 March, and take 30 days to reach the UK, you still have 60 more days in that period of 180 days to spend in Schengen. If you have exhausted your 90 days travelling to the UK, you cannot re-enter Schengen unless you do so directly through the Portuguese border (in an airport or port) and stay inside Portuguese territory until the next 180 day-period begins.
We suggest you have your residence permit with you when travelling, so you can enter Portugal if you have already exceeded your limit 90 days in Schengen.
We hope this provides the clarity you are seeking.
I see no point in speculating about what will happen after a week on Friday but I don't want to be in the position of driving in Europe without a valid licence and insurance. So we're on the Ferry home a week today. We're also booked into our campsite on the Algarve in October - when we might have a clearer view of overwintering in Europe.
Curious about your residency status in Portugal . What qualifies you for that ?
I'm also interested in this for Spain . Was going to buy a house in Spain and get a NIE . Not difficult to get but not sure what rights it gives you ?
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