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    Quote Originally Posted by barryd View Post
    I happened to get involved in a debate on a forum the other day that dealt with disabilities, mental health etc and I was just gobsmacked at some of the stories. Ok so your only hearing one persons side of the story and people can say what they like but one bloke was really badly disabled, cant get about at all and has mental health issues. Half his house is falling down, has basically no money as his benefits were going to some kind of tribunal as they reckon the poor sod is "fit for work". It was just heart breaking reading some of the accounts. Moving forward the way we are heading I would say your best course of action if you get in that situation would be a bullet or a high bridge as your basically fooked or soon will be as its just going to get worse and more and more hostile. Jeesaz! What kind of country are we becoming?
    Suicide is a reality to a lot of people on disability benefits that have been sanctioned at a whim.

    Being objective the fraud amount to the DWP (their figures ) is 1.2 billion a lot of it not even the claimants but landlords abusing the system . Unpaid benefits ar3 16 bn as borne out recently by people not claiming pension credits etc

    Then there is the system of employing Capita and Maximus Millions to appraise clients , Whats wrong with a GP and consultant ? And I am not even going there re the revenue lost to such as Amazon who pay no taxes on a multi million pound turnover and profit

    THe system in the main at the first hurdle people give in, if they take mandatory reconsideration the success rate is 11 % However if they push to tribunal 67% of claims are successful. THat leads to two conclusions Firstly for such a large success rate at tribunal who are independent of the DWP and normally consists of a Judge Doctor and disability specialist the success rate indicates the front end of the system is seriously flawed ...Of course some people apply for benefit who are not entitled but the regime affects the genuine claimants.

    I did my last advocacy in February and won for the lady, but she shouldn't have been there in the first place.

    Simply despite the wailings of the Daily Mail etc we have a system that is not fit for purpose and this government under Hunt, Rudd IDS and May have done absolutely nothing to address its shortfalls

    The NHS is being sold off by stealth and until this government frankly is removed the long term picture doesn't look very good at all



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    Id recommend a good book by Journalist Owen Jones, the young fella you see on the TV, Question Time etc. Chavs, The Demonisation of the Working Class and also The Establishment and how they get away with it. Both excellent reads and really give an insight into the murky world of the rich and powerfull and how they keep their wealth and privillage whilst screwing the rest. The tables are heavily loaded against us and as for the media bias its so in your face you dont realise it. Social mobility? What a laugh. Check out someone who really knows about economics Professor Mark Blyth author of Austerity the history of a dangerous idea. Hes one clever dude and explains that austerity is a stupid idea that goes against all economic sense, you dont cut when going into a recession, all that does is cut GDP deepens recession and drives up debt. You cut when the economy is recovering and the govt is getting more tax income. Corbyn for all his faults is correct on this one, austerity is a political choice. Please if you disagree check out Professor Mark Blyth on YouTube. You can either believe politicians or a professor of economics.
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    Just adding another map that I found interesting when considering global matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariesnowgoose View Post
    No more annoying than all the politicians that do this all the time and never answer a direct question, always deflecting the question by saying what THEY want to say and what THEIR view on such-and-such is, or lying about what they've done to address certain issues by quoting how much money or whatever they've supposedly laid out for whatever public service is struggling due to government enforced cutbacks and austerity. MPs nearly always pussyfoot around and 'play the politics game' dodging and ducking questions, which is even more annoying and boring than a comedienne expressing a personal viewpoint - and never goes anywhere, apart from disappearing as yet more hot air!

    And why shouldn't she? The politicians use Question Time as a platform to promote their party policies/propaganda all the time. So it needs a lot more counterbalance from real people at the sharp end of those policies as a reality check.

    At least she was speaking honestly from the viewpoint of a disabled person and on behalf of disabled people at the sharp end of this government's nasty policies for a few years now.

    Personally I agree with everything she said, but that's because I know several people (yes, real people in the flesh, not just some statistic in the media) who are or have suffered badly at the sharp end of these policies. Do you?
    Apologies if I have offended.
    Yes I do know disabled people, and had a close friend who died within 3 weeks of being found fit for work, and I have a disabled grandson. They were certainly all in the flesh. I was also a single parent on benefits also in the flesh.
    I have been a socialist all my life, as were my parents (oh yes, I am the offspring of immigrants too, I forgot).
    I cannot tell you how much I hate what this government is doing to people in this country.

    I was just voicing how it came over to me at the time and I too agreed with everything she said.

    I know politicians do it constantly but I'm not sure that that makes it o.k for someone I admire to do it too.
    I have been a fan of her comedy ever since she started to appear on t.v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barryd View Post
    I happened to get involved in a debate on a forum the other day that dealt with disabilities, mental health etc and I was just gobsmacked at some of the stories. Ok so your only hearing one persons side of the story and people can say what they like but one bloke was really badly disabled, cant get about at all and has mental health issues. Half his house is falling down, has basically no money as his benefits were going to some kind of tribunal as they reckon the poor sod is "fit for work". It was just heart breaking reading some of the accounts. Moving forward the way we are heading I would say your best course of action if you get in that situation would be a bullet or a high bridge as your basically fooked or soon will be as its just going to get worse and more and more hostile. Jeesaz! What kind of country are we becoming?
    I downloaded a post of Channa's some time ago.
    It was a huge long list of people who had died, commited suicide etc as a result of losing various disability benefits.
    It was one of the most sobering things I have ever read and wanted never to forget about it whilst it was still happening.
    I have shown it to quite a few people to good effect.
    I just wish that sort of info could be seen by everyone...
    It's well worth finding...
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevskoda View Post
    We lost our industry because of old farts running it,look at m/cycle industry,english bikes to go to work,what crap when young lads wanted a hailwood replica,no wonder the japs wrecked the bike and later the car industry with the goods folk wanted.
    Look at the bsa bantam then the honda,which at 17 would you buy.
    Hardly a a fair comparison .125 cc bantam

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    Quote Originally Posted by molly 2 View Post
    Hardly a a fair comparison .125 cc bantam
    Ok then we will go with the d14 bantam,still crap ,wing da ding ding and thats on a good day if you got it going after a long push ,3 plug changes later.
    Compare this to the honda cb72 made about 6 years earler,still want the banty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molly 2 View Post
    Hardly a a fair comparison .125 cc bantam
    I researched the history of Honda for a project - The Japanese turned up in the IOM in 1958/59 on a fact finding mission and were poorly treated. In 1960/61 they turned up with bikes with knobbly tyres and were laughed at. Then they appeared with a 50cc dohc twin with 21 gears. Our motorcycle industry didn't know what an ohc was! Honda's 297-6 and 500-4, along with the 4 cylinder 125/250 water cooled square 4 Yams were exotic machinery which our UK manufacturers should have, and no doubt were capable of, been producing. I got a Honda 250 CB72 in 1969 - it was fitted with everything a boy racer could dream of and was SO fast compared to my brother's BSA B25 Barracuda (which leaked oil from new). Latter day brilliant Triumph has shown what we should, and could, have been producing. Shame. Bob
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    I have a short stroke b25,good frame but engine shakes themselves to bits,best to fit a triumph 500 unit engine to them.
    By the time triumph/bsa got there act together with the 350 bandit/fury which they pulled the plug on ,the damage was done and time to shut up shop,all within one decade.
    After leaving A S Baird chrysler i moved to toyota,i could now see the light and knew the british car industry was on its way out,people buy what they want and not what some numpty in a white shirt and old school tie thinks they should have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cv View Post
    Just adding another map that I found interesting when considering global matters.

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    Fascinating, (let's all laugh at Russia!) and for another take, here's the world map with countries sized by GDP

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