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Thread: Carry a scooter or M/bike in your garage?

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    Carry a scooter or M/bike in your garage?



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    There is a thread on this subject on our sister forum Motorhome Builder Do you carry a scooter or motorbike in your garage? | Motorhome Builder
    A member has been asking DVSA for clarification, following reports of MH owners being told by DVSA that they are not allowed to do so if registered as a Motor Caravan.

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    has a rack on the back for scooter, no garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiqueman View Post
    has a rack on the back for scooter, no garage.
    Still carrying a scooter, which is what DVSA is saying we shouldn't do as a motor caravan.
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    A very interesting thread which could have serious repurcussions for the motorhome community at large.

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    How far do you go, I use my scooter for pleasure, but I also use my bike is that carrying a load? Therefore are taking my walking boots and walking poles carrying a load, I take tea bags with me and these are often exchanged for a biscuit so is that classed as hire and REWARD as in the insurance document, my. An is insured but not for hire or reward does exchanging a cup of tea class as reward,

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    Looking at the actual legislation, rather than what people believe they have been told by DVLA, the definition of a "living van" is:

    living van a vehicle used primarily as living accommodation by one or more persons, and which is not also used for the carriage of goods or burden which are not needed by such one or more persons for the purpose of their residence in the vehicle.

    The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986

    So I think they are wrong to suggest that if a vehicle is used to carry a scooter or motorbike then it must therefore be classed as a living van.

    Why would a scooter or motorbike be classed as "goods", and your laptop, kettle and shoes not be? They're all personal possessions not being carried for commercial purposes.
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    I think the phrase "Preaching to the converted" could be used here.



    or maybe just the alternative british past time ... "Having a good old moan"
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    If as has been suggested that this is due to VOSA being 'privatised', then I think it will only be resolved by a court case.
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    A living van and a motorcaravan acording to them are two dif things.
    A living van may be one for carrage of horses scramble bikes with a section for living in,where as a m/caravan may only carry awnings chairs etc in the boot,on one site which i cannot find again a chap has been through court and fined when he was pulled by vosa,the exception is the carrage of an electric trike for those who have trouble walking.
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    all comes down to changes in the laws in 1988.
    carrying bikes etc on a rack out side is ok.
    if under 3,500kg then normal mot if over 3,500kg a living van is hgv test for mot.
    as trev says there was a time a coach etc was used for moving stock cars etc . mind that changed in 1991 when coagh licence was taken away from many with only a car licence .
    but its been wise to never go for mot with m,bikes or even blow up boats in your garage .
    unfortunately many m,homes etc have really been marketted incorrectly for years .
    even today many are still being sold with big garages enough for cars etc .
    also trailers come into the living van rules if they have garage plus a living area .
    its definately not a new idea .
    there was something from ireland a few years ago that if you carried more than i think it was 2 bicycles in the garage that was enough.
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