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    Quote Originally Posted by grath View Post
    We often go from Dieppe and don't usually pay tolls
    Dieppe
    Rouen
    Evreux
    Dreux
    Chartres
    Orleans
    Limoges
    Perigueux
    Bergerac
    Marmande
    Mont De Marsan
    Dax
    Then drop on the autoroute to Irun or take the time consuming rn via Bayone
    From Irun, go up the N121a to Pampalona
    Lagrono
    Burgos
    and so on!

    All good roads

    Don't forget the 20% discount on Newhaven to Dieppe if over 60 years of age. Must be telephone booking so get the internet price first
    Good route but also consider the Somport tunnel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensowerby View Post
    Hi, enjoy your trip, we normaly use the N roads where possible and dont bother with the toll roads unless we are in a hurry to get from a to b, slow and easy and enjoy the drive.
    You mention that you have a slow van, under the new speed limits in France other than toll roads and duelcarriageways you are restricted to 50mp.
    The route through Spain is mostly toll free.
    Regards Ken
    The general 80 km/h limit does not come into force until 01/07/2018.

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    50mph is not slow.
    The French are going to bring the limit on all secondary roads down from 56mph (90kph) to 80kph (50mph) this summer. Other countries are set to do the same. Some are bringing the limit down to 70kph (45mph). Lots of stretches were already limited to 80kph for vehicles over 3500kg.

    If you want to faster then you need to use the Autoroutes.

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    As the previous post says 50 mph is not slow

    But you will not average 50mph ! maybe 40 or even less
    Thus if you are on a "tight time budget" toll roads are better as the maximum is higher and the average speed a higher proportion of the maximum.
    Given no hold ups (just the stick ups at the toll booths) if the max is 60 you could easily average 55mph

    We are mainly OK with time and thus generally avoid tolls.
    50mph maybe (55 if a good road and legal) is fine for us the only time I go up to say 60 or 65 is on a traffic free motorway.
    When planning I prefer to use km
    Average speed of 60km/hr so 1 km = 1 minute then if over 2hrs add 15min for a tea break.

    If a toll road is clearly also a real distance saver then maybe and indeed sometimes you have no choice !
    So we pay up and forget !

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    Thank you all for your comments and suggestions - after a bit of route planning we have come up with the following route down.

    We have the Wild Camping app, Camper contact app and all the aires book, but I was just wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations for aires/municipal camp sites that are roughly along our route (I dont mind a small detour)

    Valencia we will probably stay at the Valencia camper park, we went last year and it was great with the kids and the little restaurant on site was a nice addition after a few days on the road - I recommend it if you havenít been, think it was 15 euro a night or you can stay in the aire part for less.

    Here is our rough route, although we may not stick to it exactly.

    Day 1: Dieppe to Rouen 64km 50 mins

    Day 2: Rouen to Orleans 252km 3.5 hours

    Day 3: Orleans to Limoges 268 km 3.35 hours

    Day 4: Limoges to Toulouse 301 km 4.30 hours

    Day 5: Toulouse to Manresa 272km 3.40 hours

    Day 6: Manresa to Valencia 260km 4.50 hours

    Day 7: Valencia to Galera 313km 4.15 hours

    Many Thanks
    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix View Post
    My old van is happy on 50 as well,I stay off motorways using N and D roads,on the rare occasion I get traffic behind I either pull over or wait for a straight and slow down while indicating left,locals seem to appreciate it. Most of the time you'll have the roads to yourself and there's plenty of places to stop for the night or for dog to get some exercise,laybys,picnic areas and forest carparks etc.
    I assume you mean "right" when driving on the right?
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