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    Quote Originally Posted by Moped View Post
    This link makes interesting reading especially the section about extended stays in Southern European countries. It seems Spain and Portugal offer long term stay visas for the retired. As long as you enter and exit Europe through the country whose retirement visa you have obtained ( ie Spain) then you can enjoy unlimited travel in the Shengen zone. But the visa costs are higher, you will require medical and travel insurance, and you need to apply through a consulate.


    Your Guide to (Legally) Staying in Europe for More Than 90 Days
    Not only that, but all the documents you have to provide (and they are many and complicated) have to be professionally translated into Spanish - very expensive. You also have to apply to the consulate in person within a narrow time span before you wish to travel. These long term visas are an anachronism dating from before Schengen was set up and which they are trying to phase out by making it difficult to get. The fees are non-refundable in the event of refusal and if you apply for them on a regular basis (assuming the first one is granted) then they will refuse on the grounds that if you wish to spend that much time in the country you should take out residency instead. So, in summary, difficult to get, very expensive and, at best, a short-term solution.

    PS I almost forgot - getting medical insurance for more than 90 days is difficult - especially if you are of retirement age. One company quoted me a premium that was so high that I could have spent the winter in Australia (where they have free reciprocal health care) for less!!
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    It does not matter whether you have a visa or qualify for a visa waiver. The rule for ALL non-EU citizens is 90 days in any 180.
    The ETIAS is a security identification process that applies to all non-Schengen visitors, whatever visa or visa waivers you may have it is still required. It is not a substitute for a visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John H View Post
    Not only that, but all the documents you have to provide (and they are many and complicated) have to be professionally translated into Spanish - very expensive. You also have to apply to the consulate in person within a narrow time span before you wish to travel. These long term visas are an anachronism dating from before Schengen was set up and which they are trying to phase out by making it difficult to get. The fees are non-refundable in the event of refusal and if you apply for them on a regular basis (assuming the first one is granted) then they will refuse on the grounds that if you wish to spend that much time in the country you should take out residency instead. So, in summary, difficult to get, very expensive and, at best, a short-term solution.

    PS I almost forgot - getting medical insurance for more than 90 days is difficult - especially if you are of retirement age. One company quoted me a premium that was so high that I could have spent the winter in Australia (where they have free reciprocal health care) for less!!
    You could for example apply for a French long stay multiple entry visa. That would enable you to stay in France up to 9 months, and still allow you to travel in other Schengen countries for a total of 90 days within that 9 month period. But similarly Iím sure the application process will not be simple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquesam View Post
    I trust we will have a reciprocal Bretias and put a few quid in the Government coffers.
    Or we could allow free access, still with the 90/180 day rule, so encouraging tourism and getting cash in peoples pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinmd View Post
    Or we could allow free access, still with the 90/180 day rule, so encouraging tourism and getting cash in peoples pockets.
    We could but I'm sure anyone coming on holiday wouldn't gib at £7.00. After all Europe obviously don't think it is an impediment. It would also be an extra check on who comes in, and out.

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    What if you want to go for 4 months ?
    Or 5.9

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    Nothing changes until the end of the transition period at the end of 2020 so we have a minimum of 2 more years of travel freedom before these requirements are implemented. Mrs Moped has reminded me that a lot can happen between now and then so no real point in getting stressed over the 90 day thing just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moped View Post
    Nothing changes until the end of the transition period at the end of 2020 so we have a minimum of 2 more years of travel freedom before these requirements are implemented. Mrs Moped has reminded me that a lot can happen between now and then so no real point in getting stressed over the 90 day thing just yet.
    We don't know that yet; if we leave with no deal, there'll be no transition period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barge1914 View Post
    The ETIAS is a security identification process that applies to all non-Schengen visitors, whatever visa or visa waivers you may have it is still required. It is not a substitute for a visa.
    I didn't say that it was

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