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    Hi, a friend of mine spends 6 months in Portugal over the winter, he plans to go out in early October as he has the last few years. As it is before the brexit date on the 31st, can anyone foresee him having any problems with a no deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larnie View Post
    Hi, a friend of mine spends 6 months in Portugal over the winter, he plans to go out in early October as he has the last few years. As it is before the brexit date on the 31st, can anyone foresee him having any problems with a no deal.
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    We are heading for Spain on 1st October. If there is a no-deal Brexit on 31st, then the three month clock will start ticking. We are flying back for 3 weeks over Christmas, so if the worst happens we will have until 18th February before we have to leave the EU or be illegal immigrants. We will be going complete with International Driving Permits and back-up medical insurance ready to kick in on 31st because EHIC will disappear with Brexit (although there may be a grace period). We will also keep an eye on the vehicle insurance situation and if we need a green card will get one sent out straight away. I think that just about covers it - unless anyone else knows of something else.....
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    The only certain way of staying legally in the EU after 90 days would be
    ironically, to commit a crime. Driving the wrong way around a Portuguese
    roundabout at least 2 circuits should get you another 90 days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John H View Post
    If there is a no-deal Brexit on 31st, then the three month clock will start ticking. ..
    I don't really understand all the ins and outs but I am sure I heard/read that if there is no deal, there is no transition period. Is the three month clock a different thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo001 View Post
    I don't really understand all the ins and outs but I am sure I heard/read that if there is no deal, there is no transition period. Is the three month clock a different thing?
    Three months (90 days) is the amount of time citizens of 'third countries' are allowed to stay in the EU. We will be a third country once we leave - just like Australia or the United States. I believe it is actually 90 days in any 180 day period so, effectively, you can spend six months over there if you get your timings right. There are ways of staying longer with visas or residency but then it is more complicated than I understand!
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    No you can't spend six months as you imply.

    It's a moving timescale so once you've spent your 90 days you have to leave the EU for a further 90 days before you can return.
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    Yes, we have one
    It is a rolling 90 days if you know what I mean
    For example you could spend 60 days in Euroland, come home and return 60 days later and spend a further 60 days
    By the time you get to the 30 day of your second holiday, you have now reached the 90 day in 180, but the first 30 days of your first holiday would come off your 90 day limit as you are now past the point that they would count in current 180 days
    The rule is 90 days in 180 and not a 90 day break after reaching 180
    That is how i read it!
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