Michelin Agilis Camping tyres

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Hi all,

Recently had 4 new Agilis M&S tyres fitted and the fitter inflated to 65psi all round. Went to the weigh bridge today to determine axle weights and then contacted Michelin to ask the correct tyre pressure. The guy didn't want the axle weights and explained that Agilis tyre is unique insofar as they do not need this info. Correct pressure I was told was 65psi for the front and 80psi for the rear. I queried twice the fact that I thought axle weights would be a consideration but was told that the pressures advised were correct. Anyone else have these tyres fitted? If so have you had this info from Michelin?

Pat
 
Yep, Had 7 of these puppies fitted in April this year, Well Over £800 including the High Pressure Valves, but in my opinion worth every penny, Much Quieter ride,
Mine are at 65psi all around, and that's the rating actually printed on the tyres as well.
Very Happy so far, will let you know how they perform over the winter.

Edit to add Axel weights
1=1750kg
2=1400kg
3=1400kg
 
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I have them on Burstner t660 Nexxo, 3,5 bar at the front and 5,5 at the rear, it's on a Transit and is what is advised in the Burstner handbook. No problem with handling but seems a bit hard at the rear. I have rear air bags to fit to improve the rear.
 
I have had these for a year now and am pleased with them, I'm running them at 60psi front and 65psi rear.
MGVW is 3900kg,front axle is 1850kg and rear axle 2200kg.They do run well at the above tyre pressures.
 
wakk44 said:
I have had these for a year now and am pleased with them, I'm running them at 60psi front and 65psi rear.
MGVW is 3900kg,front axle is 1850kg and rear axle 2200kg.They do run well at the above tyre pressures.
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My 3500kg van is plated at 1850kg front axle and 2060kg rear. At weigh bridge today it came in at 1420kg and 1760kg, the total weight was 3200kg which is fine as I wasn't quite fully loaded. I'm wondering why you run at 60psi front and 65psi rear? Did you experiment with different pressures or were those recommended to you?

Pat
 
iampatman said:
................................ I'm wondering why you run at 60psi front and 65psi rear? Did you experiment with different pressures or were those recommended to you?

Pat
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They were recommended by a motorhomer with the Agilis camping tyres fitted and with similar weights as mine who was pleased with the handling and on the road performance,I also get 28mpg(Ducato 2.8 JTD) which is pretty good for a vehicle of that weight.
 
I contacted Michelin to, was told the same 60 psi front 80 psi rear.
The rear was much too harsh. Used the recommended pressure on the rear as advised by tyresafe.org. 65 psi.
Much better handling and ride.
 
I think the tyre pressures required are as per the vehicle manufacturers rather than the tyre companies. A real bugger to find the right info. I have a transit chassis cab (3500kg) and the recommended pressures on mine are 62 front and 51 rear (twin wheel) its obvious twin rear wheel tyres will be lower pressure overall too. Well it is obvious now after about 6mths of all sorts of stories on what the correct pressures are, including asking Michelin. Its the vehicle, weight etc above all that count.

Have attached a transit tyre fitment... I think lol
 

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Michelin reply

Hi Pat,

We changed van earlier this year and the new van is fitted with Michelins. I contacted them and received this response:

David

Thanks for your query

Based upon the weights given, I would recommend running the front axle tyres at 51psi

Please don't hesitate to come back to me if you need any further advice

Regards

Jamie

Jamie McWhir
Customer Engineering Support Manager
Car, Van & 4x4 (UK & ROI)
Message Classification: D3

They do take axles weights into account but will only give you a figure for the front axle. Previously I've helpfully been given revised pressures for both axles but apparently they will not give any advice other than 80psi for the rear axle for fear that users will run them at lower pressures when in fact the rear axle is overloaded. Our risk averse society strikes again! I run our rear tyres at around 70 psi which seems fine and not unduly harsh in terms of feeling the bumps!

Dave


iampatman said:
Hi all,

Recently had 4 new Agilis M&S tyres fitted and the fitter inflated to 65psi all round. Went to the weigh bridge today to determine axle weights and then contacted Michelin to ask the correct tyre pressure. The guy didn't want the axle weights and explained that Agilis tyre is unique insofar as they do not need this info. Correct pressure I was told was 65psi for the front and 80psi for the rear. I queried twice the fact that I thought axle weights would be a consideration but was told that the pressures advised were correct. Anyone else have these tyres fitted? If so have you had this info from Michelin?

Pat
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I have them on a swb VW T5. Great tyres and worth the extra coin. I run mine at 50psi for a smoother ride. They last for ages and give amazing grip even in the snow.
 
By way of an update - I've had a run down to Spain since I had the tyres fitted, about 2000 miles. I settled on 65psi all round before I left the UK and the ride seems fine to me. I had issues with the valves initially and eventually went to another tyre fitter who replaced the first set of valves and was surprised that 80psi was recommended for the rear tyres. His thoughts/suggestions were to run them at 65 all round and check regularly for uneven wear on the tread. No discernible or uneven wear so far.

Pat
 
Our 3500kg Chausson Welcome 75 on a Fiat 130 Ducato came with Conti's all round. I was quite pleased when it came for time to change them as I found them very harsh and noisy. Fitted Agilis all round and the difference was immediately noticable. Quieter, smoother and slightly better MPG as well. The first Winter they were put to the test on snow and ice in France and were also noticably better than the Conti's. There is a price to pay though. Firstly they are usually a bit more expensive than Conti's and secondly, as you may expect from the above, they tend to wear out quicker. But I would never go back to Conti's if I had the choice. As for pressures, I think 65psi on the rear of a 3500kg is not enough. Chausson's chart on the fuel lid was showing 79psi on the rear as I recollect, and I never ran below that because you could feel the movement in the sidewalls.
 
i have the vanco camper tyres fitted and got the garage to rotate them earlier this week front were at 65 psi fitter said they were wearing uneven because they were under inflated , at that point he didn't know how high the pressures were when i told him & the recommendation was 70 he was surprised how high but said the wear showed this was probably correct,
 
iampatman said:
Hi all,

Recently had 4 new Agilis M&S tyres fitted and the fitter inflated to 65psi all round. Went to the weigh bridge today to determine axle weights and then contacted Michelin to ask the correct tyre pressure. The guy didn't want the axle weights and explained that Agilis tyre is unique insofar as they do not need this info. Correct pressure I was told was 65psi for the front and 80psi for the rear. I queried twice the fact that I thought axle weights would be a consideration but was told that the pressures advised were correct. Anyone else have these tyres fitted? If so have you had this info from Michelin?

Pat
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I have had them on for 4 years and recently replaced front Pair. Have a Rapido 924f 3,500k and got axle weights at local weightbridge. Michelin said 55psi front and 80 back. Found in practice 65 front and 70 back gave a comfortable ride. 80 loosened my teeth.
 
Val54 said:
Hi Pat,

We changed van earlier this year and the new van is fitted with Michelins. I contacted them and received this response:

David

Thanks for your query

Based upon the weights given, I would recommend running the front axle tyres at 51psi

Please don't hesitate to come back to me if you need any further advice

Regards

Jamie

Jamie McWhir
Customer Engineering Support Manager
Car, Van & 4x4 (UK & ROI)
Message Classification: D3

They do take axles weights into account but will only give you a figure for the front axle. Previously I've helpfully been given revised pressures for both axles but apparently they will not give any advice other than 80psi for the rear axle for fear that users will run them at lower pressures when in fact the rear axle is overloaded. Our risk averse society strikes again! I run our rear tyres at around 70 psi which seems fine and not unduly harsh in terms of feeling the bumps!

Dave
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This is more or less what I was advised 7 years ago, I was told 53 in the front, I have been running at this ever since and am happy with it. When the garage have adjusted it without telling me at services I always notice that it moves around a lot more on motorways as trucks pass etc.
 
***** said:
I always instruct the garage at service time, not to check or adjust my tyre pressures. I keep an eye on them myself, then I know they are set at what I require. And with any vehicle I own, I always re check the torque after any garage has refitted the wheels!
I just don't trust!
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Me too usually, I just forgot when it had a service earlier this year(having used the same garage for 7/8years they should have remembered) and I noticed immediately on the way home
 
Pressure marking on tyres

I noticed in this thread that someone reported he inflates his tyres to 65 psi because that is the specified maximum value shown on the sidewall - maximum pressure values on a tyre sidewall apply to the North American market only and pressures higher than this may be used provided that they are within the range specified for the tyre published by the tyre manufacturer.

However, it seems that while Continental provide detailed recommendations for their Vanco Camper tyres, Michelin do not provide an equivalent service for their Agilis tyres - at least I haven't found it since I began searching on Google today!
 
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