for us the north has always started at the m4, going up the a303 anything past basingstoke is lundon and civilisation ends at the severn and tamar bridges..
When life gives you lemons, add them to your gin & tonic
I guess I walked right into that one. Feckin northern monkeys!!
I was taught at school that the 'Northern Counties' were Lancashire, Yorkshire, Co. Durham, Nothumberland and Cumberland/Westmoreland(Before they became Cumbria). By that definiton I am half Northerner(Sunderland) and half not (Cheshire)
For me driving up the A1 the North started at the first slag-heap just before Doncaster.
Watford, the village on the A5 that is not the scummy area of London. Everything squeezes through the GAP there in the hills.
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